If you want FF XI , then PLAY FF XI!

[Elexia]

People who WANT to play FFXI SHOULD go play it. But the people here want to play FFXIV, and just wish to see some of the things that made FFXI so much fun and memorable to them brought over. And they have every right to voice that.

Whether you are a FFXI Diehard or a "nostalgia glasses" theorist you have to agree that XI did some things right if so many people still love it. It isn't wrong to want what made the last game great to be brought over to the next game.

While FFXIV isn't made as a direct sequel to FFXI, in a way it IS. It's a followup on SE's mmo endeavors bearing the Final Fantasy title. And when a sequel comes around you expect it to have what made the last game great, with additions and improvements.

So I'm sorry, but this argument is just stupid. These forums were made so that the developers could see what people wanted in the game. If they make a reference to FFXI it is because this is what they want and where they remember it from. And being that this is in a way a sequel, this kind of info, what made people love the last game, is EXACTLY what the development team needs. It needs to know what kind of content has been proven to work in the opinion of their players.

Exactly. Not all is lost on these forums after all. The problem is a lot of people see this as a "new game", if they left the name as Rapture sure, but they didn't and as you said they're following up a very successful MMO under the same series.

There's no doubt if FFXIV launched as a "clone" of FFXI and left out all of the bad stuff it would probably be one of the best MMOs of this generation because they would have built on what made it good and made it even better. Sadly though, lots of people just want to forget that XI exists like SE originally tried to do for the sake of making a different game, rather than making a better game.

Every FF game built onto each other, even the spin offs did.

[Jinko]

This thread is uh.... yeah

Posting a thread, telling people to go play FFXI, because you don't want ideas taken from that game...

Lets inspect ideas (in FFXIV) borrowed from previous FF titles.

Leveling Up
Moogles
Ariships!
Primals
Exp
Jobs/Classes
Magic
the list goes on

we should probably kick these things out of the game because they relate to XI. I wouldn't want to reference that game!

Missing the point, there is a difference between taking things from the franchise (as a whole) and copying things from just FF11 which is what some people want.

Yoshi-p seems much more likely to take idea's from the off-line series than XI, such as materia and crystal tower etc.

That being said they truly screwed up materia IMO, I just hope the same doesn't happen with crystal tower.

There's no doubt if FFXIV launched as a "clone" of FFXI and left out all of the bad stuff it would probably be one of the best MMOs of this generation.

^^
Don't be absurd there wouldn't be enough to make a game with ... /wink

[Elexia]

Missing the point, there is a difference between taking things from the franchise (as a whole) and copying things from just FF11 which is what some people want.

Yoshi-p seems much more likely to take idea's from the off-line series than XI, such as materia and crystal tower etc

Yoshi-P is Yoshi-p, you don't know that he's more likely to not pull from XI, as proven by this:

[dev1312] The following NPCs have been added:

Momoroon (Limsa Lominsa)
Gagaroon (Gridania)
Lalaroon (Ul’dah)

FFXI is the only other FF game with Qiqirn naming style:



So no, Yoshida is not "more likely to pull from offline games than XI".

[Arkine]

Its accurate to say that every FFXI player that bought XIV expected that SE learned from XI and applied what they learned into XIV, not just look at popular trends and making an inferior version of them.

FFXI did alot wrong but did alot right, like:

Chat logs : Genius, easy to manage, easy to expand and scroll through, just hit + then Enter then tab through the chat tabs, it was fast and efficient.

Battle: unbearable to people with ADD but in general its solid, with Skill chains and magic bursts which added strategy to the game.

Story: Good and got better with expansions like CoP which had an awesome story, WoTG which took you back to the great war etc.

Some content: Nyzul Isle, BCNMs, KSNMS, Limbus etc could be modernized and upgraded into even better content for XIV.

If anything, its mind boggling how little they borrowed from XI.

[Jinko]

Elexia calm the F down.

I didn't say he wouldn't draw from FF11 at all, I said he "seems" more likely to draw from the franchise as a whole..

[Gramul]

If your excuse is I can't go back to FF11 because they ruined it, what makes you think they would ever make this anything like FF11 anyway ?

I don't? I'd like them to take good things from XI, but I don't want the same game.
I would like classic XI to be available is some form, but that's actually impossible so I have no choice but to move on.

What I want to see is a world with as much depth and style as XI's. I want long challenging storylines. I want to be overtaken by the lore and history of the land. I want to meet charismatic and crazy characters with a purpose. I want to travel ancient ruins and uncover lost artifacts. I want to come to a point where taking a visit to Eorzea would have as much draw as a visit to Vana'diel. Sights, sounds, people, culture. Let's make it happen Yoshi.

[Elexia]

Elexia calm the F down.

I didn't say he wouldn't draw from FF11 at all, I said he "seems" more likely to draw from the franchise as a whole..

That franchise includes Final Fantasy XI. Also no one is upset, so no one "needs to calm the F down" lol. You just seems very adamant in believing SE is willing to ignore their last MMO, especially now that they can see people are truly wondering why they didn't pull at least the basics.

I don't? I'd like them to take good things from XI, but I don't want the same game.
I would like classic XI to be available is some form, but that's actually impossible so I have no choice but to move on.

What I want to see is a world with as much depth and style as XI's. I want long challenging storylines. I want to be overtaken by the lore and history of the land. I want to meet charismatic and crazy characters with a purpose. I want to travel ancient ruins and uncover lost artifacts. I want to come to a point where taking a visit to Eorzea would have as much draw as a visit to Vana'diel. Sights, sounds, people, culture. Let's make it happen Yoshi.

This, most of us who actually played FFXI have fond memories of the story and the world and no that's not because of Nostalgia, that's because it was actually good.

[Jinko]

I don't? I'd like them to take good things from XI, but I don't want the same game.
I would like classic XI to be available is some form, but that's actually impossible so I have no choice but to move on.

What I want to see is a world with as much depth and style as XI's. I want long challenging storylines. I want to be overtaken by the lore and history of the land. I want to meet charismatic and crazy characters with a purpose. I want to travel ancient ruins and uncover lost artifacts. I want to come to a point where taking a visit to Eorzea would have as much draw as a visit to Vana'diel. Sights, sounds, people, culture. Let's make it happen Yoshi.

Yup, but I could say copy FF12 and get pretty much all of that stuff as well couldn't I ?

That franchise includes Final Fantasy XI. Also no one is upset, so no one "needs to calm the F down" lol. You just seems very adamant in believing SE is willing to ignore their last MMO, especially now that they can see people are truly wondering why they didn't pull at least the basics.

Oh here we go, Elexia making me out to be a FF11 hater again /sigh

Elexia you must have selective reading comprehension because I have said many times in many threads that certain aspects of 11 were good and I would like to see them brought over, but what I have a problem with is people wanting 14 to be the same time sinky mess that 11 was.

[Gramul]

Yup, but I could say copy FF12 and get pretty much all of that stuff as well couldn't I ?

Oh my gosh I would love that. But as its own Ivalice MMO.

Basically, what I'm saying is make the world as engaging and classically fantastic as XI was.

[Jinko]

Oh my gosh I would love that.

iknowright.

Basically, what I'm saying is make the world as engaging and classically fantastic as XI was.

Basically, what I'm saying is they can make the world as engaging and classically fantastic as XII though. (or IX, IX had an awesome world)