Zodiark's Codex entry what do we think about it?

[jameseoakes]

From the Ere Our Curtain Falls short story from the Tales from the Shadow series.

Which they rather retconned when all the primary races are made from the souls for the ancients so not sure what races that they mean with to if they even endured after Venat remade the world

[RyuDragnier]

Which they rather retconned when all the primary races are made from the souls for the ancients so not sure what races that they mean with to if they even endured after Venat remade the world

Except they didn't? As shown with the WoL's body compared with Ardbert's, the form does not need to match how it looked previously to hold it, meaning the souls are basically being recycled into new bodies all the time as they're reincarnated. The Pixies on the First are the souls of deceased children, who we're pretty sure did not look like Pixies when they were alive.

[jameseoakes]

Except they didn't? As shown with the WoL's body compared with Ardbert's, the form does not need to match how it looked previously to hold it, meaning the souls are basically being recycled into new bodies all the time as they're reincarnated. The Pixies on the First are the souls of deceased children, who we're pretty sure did not look like Pixies when they were alive.

The outright stated the reason we have so many races of humans was because after the ancients souls were torn apart there bodies physically adapted to address the damage done, so all the human races are post sundering

[SannaR]

The outright stated the reason we have so many races of humans was because after the ancients souls were torn apart there bodies physically adapted to address the damage done, so all the human races are post sundering

That doesn't explain why or how all the shards ended with the same result in races. The first only has two races that were made by others. The pixies and fuath are the result of souls being weird. Though technically the pixies were/are constructs as there was a quest dealing with them in Elpis. What makes more sense is if the new races were the new life/generation that came about after the 2nd sacrifice. As it also explains partially why there are more who can't awaken to the echo due to being born post final days as seeing a star shower tends to be the key. Than there are those who are capable of reawakening to the echo. The other is more new souls over time were made.

[jameseoakes]

That doesn't explain why or how all the shards ended with the same result in races. The first only has two races that were made by others. The pixies and fuath are the result of souls being weird. Though technically the pixies were/are constructs as there was a quest dealing with them in Elpis. What makes more sense is if the new races were the new life/generation that came about after the 2nd sacrifice. As it also explains partially why there are more who can't awaken to the echo due to being born post final days as seeing a star shower tends to be the key. Than there are those who are capable of reawakening to the echo. The other is more new souls over time were made.

That's not what the games dev team has explicitly stated and if that is the case then we are back with Venat intentionally betraying and purging her own race to make way for races that fit her ideal of how to confront the final days which is eugenics and evil

[SannaR]

That's not what the games dev team has explicitly stated and if that is the case then we are back with Venat intentionally betraying and purging her own race to make way for races that fit her ideal of how to confront the final days which is eugenics and evil

Yoshida might be a dev, but he isn't as focused on lore as one of the writers. So his take on what happened on all shards plus the source goes against even what little evidence of evolution we've been given is said to work. Which is how we ourselves understand it. To have every shard and the source's races develop the exact same way with very slight alterations while not completely improbable the possibility of it happening is very slim.