Zeromus

[GaiusDrakon]

How did they butcher the story so bad

His appearance in 6.4 is somehow even more stupid than in FF4

This is like the worst FF4 fanservice, might as well not even exist with how disrespectful 6.x was towards the source material

[Nav_Fae]

How did they butcher the story so bad

His appearance in 6.4 is somehow even more stupid than in FF4

This is like the worst FF4 fanservice, might as well not even exist with how disrespectful 6.x was towards the source material

For once I actually agree with something you said. I am a HUGE FF4 fan, was my first Final Fantasy game ever. I don't care that Zeromus was predictable. I was someone that wanted this so badly. But the way they made him appear wasn't at all remotely reminiscent of the actual hateful Zeromus. Zodiark's lingering Aether I don't mind, I think it's good they touched based on that. Throwing Dragon Lady into the crater after she became hopeful turning her into Zeromus though? That was tacky. Especially the part where you could tell the patch was over when they ordered the retreat. We'll just be back next patch when Yshotla figures out how to make the wards strong enough to hold against even Zodiark's Aether.

[HyperiusUltima]

For once I actually agree with something you said. I am a HUGE FF4 fan, was my first Final Fantasy game ever. I don't care that Zeromus was predictable. I was someone that wanted this so badly. But the way they made him appear wasn't at all remotely reminiscent of the actual hateful Zeromus. Zodiark's lingering Aether I don't mind, I think it's good they touched based on that. Throwing Dragon Lady into the crater after she became hopeful turning her into Zeromus though? That was tacky. Especially the part where you could tell the patch was over when they ordered the retreat. We'll just be back next patch when Yshotla figures out how to make the wards strong enough to hold against even Zodiark's Aether.

A gigantic model shrouded in dark aether hides a lot. To be fair, you have to remember: Zemus was the one filled with hatred and he turned into Zeromus when he died. The same issue belies Zeromus in both XIV and IV, with the exception that you threw an entire ELDER DRAGON into the bottom of the crater where Zeromus dwelled along with Zodiark's aether. We also don't know what the fuck is going to happen in regards to Zeromus, since this is an entirely new Voidsent that we can't beat yet - not unless we draw upon the Light of the First. The real question is how the heck are we going to get there? We can't just rip holes willy-nilly...even with Ysh'tola's theory.

[Renathras]

For once I actually agree with something you said. I am a HUGE FF4 fan, was my first Final Fantasy game ever. I don't care that Zeromus was predictable. I was someone that wanted this so badly. But the way they made him appear wasn't at all remotely reminiscent of the actual hateful Zeromus. Zodiark's lingering Aether I don't mind, I think it's good they touched based on that. Throwing Dragon Lady into the crater after she became hopeful turning her into Zeromus though? That was tacky. Especially the part where you could tell the patch was over when they ordered the retreat. We'll just be back next patch when Yshotla figures out how to make the wards strong enough to hold against even Zodiark's Aether.

To be fair, you also forgot the soul/memory crystal that fell into the pit.

Zeromus in FFXIV is a combination of Azdaja's hope and wish to return home + Zodiark's lingering Aether and perhaps a bit of his Lingering Will and the voidsent that became + the actual Golbez's soul and memories trapped in that crystal.

The cutscene made it VERY CLEAR (a) that Golbez is actually his friend who just took on his name and armor, (b) that the actual Golbez is the soul/memories in that crystal, and (c) they made it SUPER clear that the crystal fell lose from Zero's grasp and into the pit, likely to merge with it.

[Enkidoh]

You do.. realize... it is not the FFIV Zeromous but just using the same name? SE has done this plenty of times throughout FFXIV so this is hardly new and nothing worth getting so upset over.

What am I saying, this thread is just another troll thread and we all took the bait hook line and sinker - everyone move along, nothing more to see here.

[GaiusDrakon]

You do.. realize... it is not the FFIV Zeromous but just using the same name? SE has done this plenty of times throughout FFXIV so this is hardly new and nothing worth getting so upset over.

What am I saying, this thread is just another troll thread and we all took the bait hook line and sinker - everyone move along, nothing more to see here.

Lol?

Just because they've butchered so many bosses doesn't mean it's suddenly a good thing?

Look at the atrocity that is FF14's Kefka.

A gigantic model shrouded in dark aether hides a lot. To be fair, you have to remember: Zemus was the one filled with hatred and he turned into Zeromus when he died. The same issue belies Zeromus in both XIV and IV, with the exception that you threw an entire ELDER DRAGON into the bottom of the crater where Zeromus dwelled along with Zodiark's aether. We also don't know what the fuck is going to happen in regards to Zeromus, since this is an entirely new Voidsent that we can't beat yet - not unless we draw upon the Light of the First. The real question is how the heck are we going to get there? We can't just rip holes willy-nilly...even with Ysh'tola's theory.

There's like absolutely zero story to FF14's Zeromus beyond "omg Golbez created him". FF4's Zeromus actually at least had some backstory where Zemus wanted to colonize Earth and believes in racial superiority and was locked by the other Lunarians. FF14's Zeromus is basically Kefka levels of fanservice.

Not to mention how Golbez is butchered as well. Why did we need an HW Ardbert 2.0 exactly?

Gotta love those spoilers.

?_? Don't click in? The name doesn't even mean anything.

[Jojoya]

You do.. realize... it is not the FFIV Zeromous but just using the same name? SE has done this plenty of times throughout FFXIV so this is hardly new and nothing worth getting so upset over.

What am I saying, this thread is just another troll thread and we all took the bait hook line and sinker - everyone move along, nothing more to see here.

The pitfalls of fan service.

They use the same name, those familiar with the original want the original. Those not familiar with the original just want people to shut up so they can enjoy the game without irrelevant side commentary from those who feel their desired fan service was done dirty.

[KitingGenbu]

Gotta love those spoilers.

[Jeeqbit]

It does seem like they are just burning through them. They are probably confident they have plenty more bosses to burn through from other FF games so that they aren't worried about using them as throwaway bosses.

It's obviously meant to be a filler, run-of-the-mill stuff for us to make everything seem normal for a while. Kill otherworldly bosses threatening the realm, usual stuff, until something happens that we'll find out about in July.

If things aren't normal for a while (for us), then surprises aren't that surprising anymore.

[GTK0HLK]

Pretty much as some have said, low quality threads, with simple answers ingrained into the msq..,

it's why I just don't even bother reading past the first pages of some threads anymore, since it's been cheap and trashy for the "fanboys/girls of old trolls" to play pretend.

It was practically handwaved by "The Knight in Black" by saying Zeromus wasn't complete/full strength/etc. which someone else will likely use to handwave the fact its just two hands and a face that was supposed to represent something akin to a bird or mouthless dragon, etc etc.

While we don't know what their actual plans or if they actually do feel like they got enough material to just casually throw around bosses for the next 10 years..,
I cannot say.

But it is justified for those who actually have a connection to the older FF games to feel as such.

but it's still to early to tell, as these set up patches have been so different compared to other patches..,<more so, since we didn't "need" closure patches for EW>
Or the fact people enjoyed Pandaemonium, or Myths more, story wise.

[Not like the usual Lore Minds/BigData of the community got much cooking atm relating to how the first works. Unless they start requiring almost all content to be completed. Which only makes sense if tataru's grand endeavors is an attempt by the devs to get as much people through the content before the next expac without explicitly stating it for reasons to keep story ideas hidden.]