Gunbreaker, Bloodfest.

[Arohk]

I want to suggest a change to Bloodfest (Cartridge Charge II), at lvl 88 instead of giving 3 Cartridges on a 2 minute cooldown, make it give 2 but on a 1 min. cooldown.

Just my 2 cents, to make Gunbreakers rotation feel less strictly, especially if a fight has downtimes where you can't attack anthing to keep your rotation to build cartrides.

[Mithron]

I love this idea

[Absurdity]

Not seeing how this would make the rotation any less strict. Now you're just going to do a 3-cart + Bloodfest burst every minute instead of every two, your opener is more awkward and the awful forced 2-cart burst is going to change slightly.

[CKNovel]

Same as above, I don't think it would change anything about the rotation being strict.

If anything:

• Dash shouldn't inflict damage but at most a debuff
• Continuation shouldn't drop after another GCD
• Sonic Break should be updated/merged
• Blasting Zone CD should scale on skillspeed, it drifts very easily
• Gnashing fang combo could grant a self defense buff to reduce the APM when a tank buster happens in a 60s window
• Rampart and Camouflage could be merged, the latter is a bit niche

If anything, I'd also add a way for GNB to generate cartridges during downtime, something close to Umbral soul

[baklava151]

Gnashing fang combo could grant a self defense buff to reduce the APM when a tank buster happens in a 60s window

I wouldn't hate it but it's not really necessary. Once you get an idea of when TBs happen during a fight, you can prepop Nebula/Rampart before your 1-min starts and usually have a least one weave slot for Heart of Corundum. Worse comes to worse you move some things around to make room for mits but unlike DRK you at least have a bit of flexibility there.

Rampart and Camouflage could be merged, the latter is a bit niche

I've only just cleared P9S but looking at logs from later fights, with the exception of P12 it looks like the bosses do a lot of physical autos which Camouflage is perfect for and lets you save Nebula/Rampart for TBs. Plus it's nice in dungeons for trash pulls, so it'd be a huge downgrade to get rid of it.

[Renathras]

I think I'd actually like this.

It would normalize the burst instead of having a weird stutterstep odd minute vs even minute thing going. It would be more consistent. It would also help with things like KO recovery since you'd have it up for every burst to be able to get a Double Down without it drifting as you spam your AOE combo if you happen to go down and get a Raise just before the burst window.

Honestly, I think it would allow for more interesting choices for players interested in it than the current system does, and make the even minute bursts SLIGHTLY less busy and the odd ones slightly more, which would be a good thing, imo.

[Arohk]

[*]Dash shouldn't inflict damage but at most a debuff

I am personaly not a fan of using mobility skills for a pure DPS gain, but you need to learn and know when you will need a dash and keep the charges if needed.
[*]Continuation shouldn't drop after another GCD

Fair, because Continuation doesnt drop the 1-2-3 combo either.
[*]Sonic Break should be updated/merged

I have no optinion on that, i always use Bow Shock and Sonic Break together with No Mercy
[*]Blasting Zone CD should scale on skillspeed, it drifts very easily

Skillspeed doesnt effect any oGCD abilities, because of this it seems best to have 2.5 sec GCD, then you have no drift.
[*]Gnashing fang combo could grant a self defense buff to reduce the APM when a tank buster happens in a 60s window

I dont think you need that, you just need to learn to use your defenses before the boss uses hsi Tankbusters, they last 15 or 20 seconds, you can use them in advance before going into Continuation combo.
[*]Rampart and Camouflage could be merged, the latter is a bit niche

No, Camouflage is the gunbreakers version of a smaller mitigation CD, all tanks got someting like this.

[CKNovel]

I wouldn't hate it but it's not really necessary. Once you get an idea of when TBs happen during a fight, you can prepop Nebula/Rampart before your 1-min starts and usually have a least one weave slot for Heart of Corundum. Worse comes to worse you move some things around to make room for mits but unlike DRK you at least have a bit of flexibility there.

It's not necessary, it's just a QoL.
All QoLs aren't necessary but they're all nice.

Shaving a few thing to weave is the objective, I know it could lead to GNB having an extra mitigation but it could also make the tanks different.

I've only just cleared P9S but looking at logs from later fights, with the exception of P12 it looks like the bosses do a lot of physical autos which Camouflage is perfect for and lets you save Nebula/Rampart for TBs. Plus it's nice in dungeons for trash pulls, so it'd be a huge downgrade to get rid of it.

Camouflage currently has many downgrades of its own:
-Bad against big single hit
-Weaker against magical (most TBs), Inconsistent against physical
-Not good on its own, diminishing return with multiple cooldowns

It's true that it has a niche but that's exactly the argument, it's the most niche cooldown and should be applicable to more situations.
Dark Mind for example is niche but has much more applications.

No, Camouflage is the gunbreakers version of a smaller mitigation CD, all tanks got someting like this.

DRK doesn't have a 90s mitigation that isn't rampart, Dark mind is a 60s.
"Every tank has one so GNB should have one" and then we'll complain about tanks beings the same.

[RyuDragnier]

DRK doesn't have a 90s mitigation that isn't rampart, Dark mind is a 60s.
"Every tank has one so GNB should have one" and then we'll complain about tanks beings the same.

Technically Oblation fits that bill. I say technically because while it's 10% mitigation, it's also incredibly lackluster and you get it so late to where it's pretty forgettable (seriously SE, give it to DRK at level 58, when we don't have TBN).

[CKNovel]

Technically Oblation fits that bill. I say technically because while it's 10% mitigation, it's also incredibly lackluster and you get it so late to where it's pretty forgettable (seriously SE, give it to DRK at level 58, when we don't have TBN).

Oblation is a 60s and can be thrown at allies, it's not the same as Camouflage, Thrill of Battle or Bulwark.

Also, I can understand why SQEX won't buff Oblation, a 15% mitigation on 60s you can throw at allies and that can stack 2 charges would be a bit too strong.