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  1. #51
    Player SassyAssassin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    I'm a gay... and I always read him as a gay as well.

    I've had friends like Moenbryda who would get WAY too flirty with me because they knew it would make me uncomfortable and awkward, which gave them a good, lighthearted laugh. I cared for these ladies very much. There is a real argument for him being gay despite all this (and despite this being a Titanmen thread) just based on my own lived experience.
    I mean it could be but there are sensitive and Urianger-like men out there that are straight too.
    I think a certain personality isn’t automatically attached to a sexuality and to me he did seem to care about her more than just friends, they were opposites in their behaviour which many people prefer when looking for a partner in order to keep things exciting and unexpected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyAssassin View Post
    I mean it could be but there are sensitive and Urianger-like men out there that are straight too.
    I think a certain personality isn’t automatically attached to a sexuality and to me he did seem to care about her more than just friends, they were opposites in their behaviour which many people prefer when looking for a partner in order to keep things exciting and unexpected.
    Obviously anyone can have any personality. I'm just going off my own life and seeing similarities between Uriangier and Moenbryda to myself and women I've known in my life who knew I am and still found it fun to try to be flirty with me anyway.

    It's one of those story beats that really can be read either way.
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    Maybe he is just European
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    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

  4. #54
    Player SassyAssassin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    Maybe he is just European
    Like from the land of croissant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    Maybe he is just European
    Like... Finnish? Or Polish? I'm intrigued. Which country/culture? Definitely NOT Italian....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    Maybe he is just European
    And... the song gets played again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    That is your point of view, why make a huge thread about it?
    It's a character analysis. And it's not just my point of view. Their dress is obviously a nod to the non-binary/NB community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    I'm a gay... and I always read him as a gay as well.

    I've had friends like Moenbryda who would get WAY too flirty with me because they knew it would make me uncomfortable and awkward, which gave them a good, lighthearted laugh. I cared for these ladies very much. There is a real argument for him being gay despite all this (and despite this being a Titanmen thread) just based on my own lived experience.

    They intentionally write a lot of characters like this, possibly so people can project their own thoughts onto them (see Gaia and Rhyne) and also because some countries would ban the game if it had openly gay characters, and being a global MMO, Square isn't going to give up money just to have an openly gay character.
    But they added gay sex scene in FF16 in defiance of homophobic laws in Saudi Arabia. There's no excuse for them not to do the same in FF14 now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    Maybe he is just European
    While Europe has far more LGBTQIA+ individuals (20% based on a survey), this is only because AmeriKa is homophobic and silences LGBTQIA+ individuals so they don't get heard. Europeans are not naturally more queer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanMenII View Post
    While Europe has far more LGBTQIA+ individuals (20% based on a survey), this is only because AmeriKa is homophobic and silences LGBTQIA+ individuals so they don't get heard. Europeans are not naturally more queer.
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