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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    I literally have no clue what that game even is, I am talking about the most popular MMO's and as far as I am aware there is no npc combat involved in dungeon nor would it be a welcome feature, also having npcs to fight WITH you in the world is fine because its just a damage helper, however dungeons are.. dungeons, and it shouldnt be encouraged to play it with NPC's.

    I did a bit of research out of pure curiosity, that game is pretty much dead from what I can see

    We estimate the daily player count of Phantasy Star Online 2 to be 35,005, with a total player base of 3,684,716.

    So yeah, a dead game has the system doesnt really mean much lol
    Ok so you ask to be corrected then when corrected you use "well its not a big mmo". NOWHERE did you specify popular or not. You said and I quote "In the market" not "in MY market". You not knowing the Phantasy Star IP isn't my problem and doesn't take away from my point.

    Also you don't even do dungeons like that per your own words so why tf do you even care? Most players play with other players and that will always be optimal. You're complaining for nothing. I'll never understand this type of gatekeeping. Not to mention yall complaining about normal content being to easy so why also is trusts an issue if dungeons are "braindead"?
    At least TRY to be consistent with your logic..
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Ok so you ask to be corrected then when corrected you use "well its not a big mmo". NOWHERE did you specify popular or not. You not knowing the Phantasy Star IP isn't my problem and doesn't take away from my point.

    Also you don't even do dungeons like that per your own words so why tf do you even care? Most players play with other players and that will always be optimal. You're complaining for nothing. I'll never understand this type of gatekeeping. Not to mention yall complaining about normal content being to easy so why also is trusts an issue if dungeons are "braindead"?
    At least TRY to be consistent with your logic..
    I literally mentioned I do roulettes on my NA character xD, but okay ? And of course if you're telling me some people in a dead MMO like a feature I wont actually take it into account, because it means nothing is the point, I acknowledge your point that another MMO has a trust-like system and that they like it, alright, but it's a dead MMO for a reason (or multiple reasons), it doesnt make the system a good system is my point nor should it be encouraged, now if you told me WoW,GW2, Lost Ark or another popular MMO had it and the community liked it, my response would be very different.

    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Your logic fails...
    It'd make sense if said systems were why it died. Yet the reason it did wasn't that. It's clear you know fuck all about the IP because looking at PSO2 numbers as of today is off as Sega killed the game for its "sequal". The base game was doing phenomenal but they actively removed systems to get folks off the game to push them to NGS. Again if you took some time you'd find this stuff out. The feature was there in the mmos prime, it wasn't added after the fact btw so nice try? PSO2 didn't last 9+ years being terrible...use your brain.
    Out of posts so I'll respond here, idk why you are getting so upset about this, I have never said that I knew anything about that IP, I even said it in my post that I dont know anything about it, nor did I say that it died because of the trust-like system, I said it died for one or multiple reasons, you are trying very hard to twist my word. In any case it's not worth getting upset about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    I literally mentioned I do roulettes on my NA character xD, but okay ? And of course if you're telling me some people in a dead MMO like a feature I wont actually take it into account, because it means nothing is the point, I acknowledge your point that another MMO has a trust-like system and that they like it, alright, but it's a dead MMO for a reason (or multiple reasons), it doesnt make the system a good system is my point nor should it be encouraged, now if you told me WoW,GW2, Lost Ark or another popular MMO had it and the community liked it, my response would be very different.
    Your logic fails...
    It'd make sense if said systems were why it died. Yet the reason it did wasn't that. It's clear you know fuck all about the IP because looking at PSO2 numbers as of today is off as Sega killed the game for its "sequal". The base game was doing phenomenal but they actively removed systems to get folks off the game to push them to NGS. Again if you took some time you'd find this stuff out. The feature was there in the mmos prime, it wasn't added after the fact btw so nice try? PSO2 didn't last 9+ years being terrible...use your brain.
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