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  1. #21
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    Saraide's Avatar
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    We already have item level synchs for level cap dungeons. Just apply that to trials aswell and you're good to go. Mid expansion trials functionally have a tight ilvl synch because they are level synch'd. Not sure why this is such a controversial thing all of a sudden when it already exists in dungeons. It would make getting them in roulette a much better experience. Recently had an endsinger trial that had mostly people in it getting there the first time and we actually heard all the voice lines in the final phase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

  2. #22
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    TheGrimace's Avatar
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    Knives Jonquil
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    Excalibur
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    Rogue Lv 100
    All my homies want adjustments to cappers.
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  3. #23
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    Rin Katsuyuki
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    Leviathan
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    Bard Lv 90
    On the one hand, I like the quick battles because it's an easy way to level up characters but on the other hand I agree with you. Some of the lower level duties are starting to feel REALLY weak.
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  4. #24
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    Knives Jonquil
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    Excalibur
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    Rogue Lv 100
    Oh also Gilgamesh. I miss seeing more of the absolute chaos on the Big Bridge. Not as important as fixing the cappers, but this one would benefit from adjustments too. Big Keep still has most of its guts intact.
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  5. #25
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Phoenix
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I know they want people to get through the story, but... The last trial (and patch one) for each expansion should have a decent difficulty. Not too difficult ofc like Savage but far from as easy as they are now. Like with Thordan, you barely register that he is flailing around during the last phase before he's dead.
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  6. #26
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    All-good Namesaregone
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    I'm not convinced that new players are leaving the game because trials are too easy. Does anyone have any data that might suggest that new players are indeed frustrated by the lack of difficulty in MSQ trials/dungeons?
    This isn't really something I can provide definitive spread sheet data on to prove. I wouldn't even begin to know how to calculate something like this in the first place, and even if I could it would still be dismissed as an uncreditable source of data. But I do know that everytime I invite a friend to try the game, they do express how anticlimactic the fights are and that they don't feel any reason to have to be good at anything until Endgame. One of my friends at level 40 went 3 weeks crafting themselves a set of gear with melds and were sadden that it was outdated in 5mins. I warned them, but they insisted that self-progression was part of the joys in MMOs.
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  7. #27
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    Van Arn
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    Maduin
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    Pugilist Lv 58
    Going from the last boss of (new) Research Facility to Singularity reactor is awful gameplay-wise. I'd love to see at least the capstone fights rebalanced or ilvl synced. Just -something- to prevent old trials from becoming guildhests.
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    Last edited by vanaii; 05-31-2023 at 02:21 AM.

  8. #28
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    Elissar's Avatar
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    Ellisar Loravalur
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    I understand your argument. However, in Endsinger there is not much going on after the Scions phrases.
    The music just loop around the same part while she desperately try to resist the light. The scions part was amazing but after i while, close the end, i was feeling bored.

    I think they may work on it later, they need to finish NPC support for all dungeons first.
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  9. #29
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Halicarnassus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tehmon View Post
    It's not about them leaving the game, it's about delivering a well-rounded experience which includes an exciting final trial for a very emotional story that is coming to it's conclusion (partially). I doubt anyone drops the game just because Thordan or other early expansion trials are pushovers these days, but it certainly doesn't ADD to the experience that they are pushovers.
    From experience it seems to be the opposite. Most players in old expansion content are roulette players who want to knock it over in 1 go. They wouldn't like it if things were capped and it was not a guaranteed kill every time.
    You can see how people reacted to the 2nd and 3rd Endwalker Trials or Seat of Sacrifice Normal to see what would happen, people would unequip gear to not get those on their roulette or would immediately leave on loading in and seeing the duty title. Most existing players wouldn't tolerate more than 1-2 pulls of any content that's not the current endgame.
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    Last edited by VerdeLuck; 05-31-2023 at 03:48 AM.

  10. #30
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    Knives Jonquil
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    Excalibur
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    Rogue Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by vanaii View Post
    Going from the last boss of (new) Research Facility to Singularity reactor is awful gameplay-wise. I'd love to see at least the capstone fights rebalanced or ilvl synced. Just -something- to prevent old trials from becoming guildhests.
    Yeah, at this point Ascian Prime is far more of a "final boss" for Heavensward than Thordan is. Which is kind of funny, given how the plot plays out. Thordan's fight was never that intense, but the events that play out before his fight make him seem far more badass.
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