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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Feels just a tiny bit gimmicky, but I like the result (able to correct/delay up to 2 GCD per 2 minutes at a cost of 5|10 potency).

    The largest change here is honestly just the ppgcd increase to 250 base. DRG's appgcd when including Scale contribution is 405.

    The DFD interaction merely increases Piercing Talon's ppgcd by a further 150, bringing it to 400. 10 potency to correct for 1 GCD over overclocking per minute is quite cheap and would likely make it obligatory after a point.

    I feel like a way, opposite this, to rush the rotation would be a good mirror and could keep this from just becoming the new 'mostly inflexible' rotation alone?
    In my mind, the "2x PT for a Supercharged DfD" was meant to be the optimal route, but I guess I messed up and made the potencies too low.

    But are you saying you'd rather have all 3 routes (0PT, 1PT, 2PT) be equal in total potency? That could also be a better option actually. I edited my previous post to reflect that.

    As you said, it would let us decide if we want to speed up or delay our GCD rotation depending on when our buffs are coming back up.
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    Last edited by Petite; 05-27-2023 at 07:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petite View Post
    In my mind, the "2x PT for a Supercharged DfD" was meant to be the optimal route, but I guess I messed up and made the potencies too low.
    It still likely would be, for the simple fact that you could better control what GCDs fall into your 2-minute burst window.

    But are you saying you'd rather have all 3 routes (0PT, 1PT, 2PT) be equal in total potency? That could also be a better option actually.
    Somewhat.

    What came to mind was more of how high-SkS ARR, HW, and early (pre-Lance Mastery buff) StB DRG played (able to squeeze in an extra Full Thrust via delayed PB/HT reapplications in ARR; able to maintain CT cleave across multiple enemies while still getting in LS-Full Thrusts on CD when WT/F&C relative potency was low and LotD duration would otherwise be >21s in early StB; or by cutting out a Dragon GCD that wouldn't ultimately offer an extra Gierskogul in HW)...

    ...or how Shadowbringers SAM had different looping options based on GCD speed (though its BiS 'base' rotation overclocked by 3 GCDs, it could effectively pace itself for 3 GCDs' overclocking or underclocking relative to that BiS rotation) via MKSS not being used on Yukikaze, varying Higanbana between Yuki or Kasha/Gekko drops, and via Yaten-Enpi.

    The latter, especially, was thereby much more able to adapt while still feeling very deliberate.

    Essentially, is there perhaps anything that can be done within/despite our long combo strings that could offer the rotation a bit more nuance and ingenuity that'd also help with perfecting later burst windows' GCD alignment?
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 05-27-2023 at 08:15 AM.