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    Raelle Brinn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    I actually got into a debate a while back at how kindly the story suddenly takes to treating him, and the gymnastics they employ to avoid mentioning his hand in Garlemald in particular, so I'm with you there at least!
    Hey, that was a good time! Uh. Assuming you're referring to your discussions/debates with me. If not, just, ignore this post and I'll quietly go back to cheerfully making use of that report button!

    I don't have much to add to this point except agreeing with you that I'm much more interested in a basic framework where we're the ones who wronged Themis and need forgiveness, in a way, and I got a bit more of that sense from his final scene than I think you did, which is why it probably went down for me a bit better. And yeah, that 5.3 was harsh enough on Elidibus (G'raha is harsh) that I can't bring myself to be concerned with it anymore. 5.3 also basically ended with the recognition/revelation on the part of the WoL of his "true nature" (a young person who truly, sincerely, just loved his friends and wanted to help save the world) to the point we were given the option afterwards to say "I don't know if I did the right thing" in regards to putting him down, so our relative friendliness to him seemed perfectly consistent to me.

    There comes a point where I start feeling pretty weird about a need to berate all members we know of a particular race and make sure we hold them properly morally accountable for all their terrible, awful, no good, very bad crimes, especially when they're all already dead, and, as we're reminded in Anabesios, they're the ones who are the "losers" in the "I want to save the world and those I love"-off with us and therefore don't get to "decide history" after they've already lost everything.
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    Last edited by Brinne; 05-27-2023 at 06:17 AM.