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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100

    BRD is awful now in CC.

    What little burst threat they had is completely gone. The silent nocturn change really needs to be reverted.
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  2. #2
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    maximesan514's Avatar
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    Ice Truck
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    Bard is perfect the way it is now, I'm glad that square enix made those perfect change, changes we're god sent.
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  3. #3
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    JohncarterIx's Avatar
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    John Carterix
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 90
    bard is good now how a dancer has a lott more damage then a bard now a bards in last place for damage and thats good not
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    Nubrication's Avatar
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    Character
    Virtus Pendragon
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    So true, they want you to play bard in mid range now. They nerfed the living hell out of silent nocturne but they didn’t buff hp, buff powerful shot and expected warden’s paen buff to offset getting obliterated.

    Now bard does no damage AND can’t secure kills. No smart bard is going to spam powerful shot in melee-ish range to replenish empyreal arrow. And if you’re in the back, then you’re out of range to silence to support your team or secure kills. Devs probably thought that players aren’t going to jump on bards while they’re in the back because they’re listening to garbage players tell them what needs a nerf.

    Bard is absolutely useless in CC now, especially if you have a subpar team, it makes it even worse. Why play bard when you can play any other class and deal more damage, not be as squishy AND stun, silence, etc.
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    Suri Obinata
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    Seraph
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    BRD is now useless in pvp period, I'm super pissed about it because now my choices are a. stop playing pvp or b. learn a new job and neither of those are something I want to do.
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  6. 05-24-2023 03:01 PM
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    Burmecia's Avatar
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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    Zodiark
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    Archer Lv 100
    what was the silence duration before, 3 sec? or did they mess with range?
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    Easley Lighthalzen
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    It's always been awful
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    Azi Kerilade
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Burmecia View Post
    what was the silence duration before, 3 sec? or did they mess with range?
    "Potency has been reduced from 2,000 to 0.
    Range has been reduced from 25 to 15 yalms.
    Silence effect duration has been reduced from 3 to 2 seconds.
    "
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  10. #9
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Burmecia View Post
    what was the silence duration before, 3 sec? or did they mess with range?
    It's 2 sec now. I would have been fine with a duration nerf. That doesn't bother me too much and could have easily adjusted to that. The problem is they reduced the duration, reduced the time and removed the damage it did. They have essentially removed BRD's ability to do meaningful burst. The job has always been pretty reliant on teammates, but had some semblance of individual contribution to carry, but now its 100% reliant on teammates. You're better off playing MCH now if you want to play a ranged job that can pick people off quickly who are out of position.

    Quote Originally Posted by tsuchii View Post
    It's always been awful
    BRD was fine. It wasn't too strong, nor was it weak. It required a heavy reliance on teammates, but could pick people off pretty well when played right with their burst phase. The nerf is overkill and destroys their ability to finish off enemies.
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    Character
    Blue Dreamer
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Are you guys sure you are not overreacting a bit? I didn't get to try revamped bard yet but on the surface I think the biggest issue with silence is the range reduction because that will require a major adjustment given the range on most of everything else is 25 yalms. Changing it from 3 to 2 seconds sucks and it ocured to me that people will either waste their purify on it or won't purify at all because 2 seconds silence isn't worth it. This is bad because bard has two debuffs that can be purified and with one of them not being worth it the other will get cleared more often but at the same time it means that the 2 seconds silence is guaranteed, heck by the time it hits you and you hit puri that's 2 seconds gone. The 2000 potency can hardly be missed if the repelling shot got 2k increase and the cd on that is 5 seconds shorter. The repelling shot and silence can make a nice combo while silence still triggers pitch perfect which was always silence's biggest damage value. There is also a potency increase on the apex arrow, a skill with the same cd as silence so technically these changes should not affect bard's burst potency, as for its effectivness...it hasn't been great in the first place! Silence will need better timing now that the window is smaller but paired with repelling shot it can still work wonders...I imagine. Paeon got a nice boost too if used at the right time so there's more motivation to utilise it outside of burst. I do wish bard wasn't so fragile but hey, it makes it a great job for those who like to feel alive!
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