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  1. #61
    Player
    Voidedge_Ragna's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Edge Void
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    Ragnarok
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    Warrior Lv 90
    honestly if you compare old school Diadem to Eureka it was a step up, If you compare Eureka to Bozja it was a step up it looked like they got closer and closer and then they take it ... throw it out the window and give you 2 (?) dungeons you will run about 10 (?) times each for a reward and never need to go back to? Even if you say Island Sanctuary, DD AND variant are to replace Bozja, it will in total still have less player hours.

    I think a better version of Bozja, would have at least solved a lot of content for me. The adventure map added an aspect for story players and grinders (there was a lot of loot) as well as hardcores (Duels and DRS) yes not all of those were "great or perfect" but they were given and available.

    Stepping down from such a big chunk of content was a bit of a let down for me.
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  2. #62
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    DPZ2's Avatar
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    Dal S'ta
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    Read about the various patches prior to Endwalker. Most of them had multiple dungeons and also included a dedicated area or mechanic for the relics.
    That dedicated area/mechanic for the relics was there during exactly 40% of the life of the game, which I do not consider "most". Also, multiple dungeons have been, and remain a part of the patch cycle. You just don't care for the 'multiples' this expansion. Then again, those extra dungeons in 2.4 didn't really give you rewards you couldn't get elsewhere either. There's only so many times you can run through Snowcloak and Sastasha (Hard) once you've got the rewards you want ...

    Let's look at your source and investigate what's available for the .4 release of 2.0 through 6.0, shall we? Note that 2.4 had two Hard Trials and two Trials. Every other release had one hard/extreme trial and one trial. 2.4 also had two hard dungeons. Unlike every other release. Aside from two dedicated area/mechanics for the relics (again, 2 out of 5 patches), there really is little difference between the 3.4, 4.4, 5.4 and 6.4 "content" listed.

    6.4

    Raid series
    Dungeon
    Varient Dungeon
    Trial
    Extreme Trial
    Unreal

    5.4

    Raid series
    Dungeon
    Bozja
    Trial
    Extreme Trial
    Unreal

    4.4

    Raid series
    Dungeon
    Hard Dungeon
    Trial
    Extreme Trial
    Eureka

    3.4

    Raid series
    Dungeon
    Hard Dungeon
    Trial
    Extreme Trial

    2.4

    Dungeon
    Hard Dungeon
    Hard Dungeon
    Trial
    Extreme Trial
    Trial
    Raid series
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  3. #63
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    IckeDerTyp's Avatar
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    Rhea Seren
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    Twintania
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    Gunbreaker Lv 92
    Pre covid two dungeons per patch, thanks~
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  4. #64
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    Oidi Grey
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    Marilith
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    ...
    To be fair, we didn't need an exploratory zone in ARR. All of ARR was the exploratory zone, and each zone was pretty engaging and busy with something going on.
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  5. #65
    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Phelsarn Lumerais
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    Midgardsormr
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    Sage Lv 100
    A proper relic questline and content for starters.
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  6. #66
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Louisoix
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post

    5.4

    Raid series
    Dungeon
    Bozja
    Trial
    Extreme Trial
    Unreal

    4.4

    Raid series
    Dungeon
    Hard Dungeon
    Trial
    Extreme Trial
    Eureka
    4.4 was only 1 dungeon saint moch hard, was no eureka that came in 4.45. Bozja was also 5.45. Im in two minds calling unreal new content too to be fair.
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  7. #67
    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Blackjack mount: 4 million MGP.
    Thats part of the problem, either they add "theres a 5k song or dance pole" or "here is you 2123685946734854 mgp mount, enjoy your grind!"

    Like on most things they dont manage a middle ground...
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  8. #68
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    Mistress_Irika's Avatar
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    Ophelia Irika
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I would like an expansion on some of the content that's already in the game like adding more chocobo racing maps for example.

    As far as what I would like, well...nothing.

    I feel as though we have enough content as is. Those that are saying that their isn't enough content are probably the ones who are rushing through it in the first place just to save time rather than enjoying it. If you want proof then you can look in your very own dungeon groups that does wall to wall pulls and skips over the unimportant lore items that the devs occassionly leaves on the ground in certain dungeons.
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  9. #69
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    DPZ2's Avatar
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    Dal S'ta
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    4.4 was only 1 dungeon saint moch hard, was no eureka that came in 4.45. Bozja was also 5.45. Im in two minds calling unreal new content too to be fair.
    Sorry, but the source material I used (provided by the person I was responding to) incorporated everything from patch 4.40 through 4.45 in its listing. To be clear, Eureka was first released in patch 4.25 ... long before the 4.4 patch. Similarly Bozja was first released in patch 5.25.

    You also ignored the dungeon The Burn, which was released in 4.4.
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  10. #70
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    VelKallor's Avatar
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    Vel Kallor
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    Kujata
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    They added 2 Orchestrion rolls. Wheres your defense for that?
    And three framers kits. I am not "defending" anything, the game doesnt need "a defender".

    Seriously...
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