Shameful lack of content, Yoshi P.

[IkaraGreydancer]

I'll never understand why people here rag on casual players for liking the state of a game...thats made for casual players...
OFC people who aren't super hardcore are generally going to be OK with how things currently are because they're the majority and the game n how it functions reflects this.

[Kaurhz]

I'll never understand why people here rag on casual players for liking the state of a game...thats made for casual players...
OFC people who aren't super hardcore are generally going to be OK with how things currently are because they're the majority and the game n how it functions reflects this.

I mean if people were to do their research on everyone rather than just people they disagreed with, they would actually come to the conclusion that there are just as many people complaining about content and having nothing to do, even though they've barely touched the game by any metric, as to what there are people saying they have plenty to do whilst never actually getting around to doing that 'plenty'.

Some people are just incapable of coming to the conclusion that there are people that play this game differently than they do, inc., how they digest the content.

[LianaThorne]

Fair. Its just funny that most people that say the game is perfect with lots of content have characters clearly made with mods in mind and dont do any content whatsoever.

You're making a lot of assumptions just because someone likes to make their base character look good and anytime I see you post now it's literally just attacking people about modding even if it has nothing to do with the actual topic at hand. We get it, you hate modders. They're not the ones forcing the game in the direction that it is though and it's honestly starting to become a really tired joke to constantly relate the game to a second life type or a casual only experience. The devs are pushing out content to appeal to more than just the hardcore raid scene...because the hardcore raid scene isn't the only community that exists here. Taking away modding or shaming people that use it isn't going to suddenly make them become raiders or somehow encourage a mass exodus from other games to push it in a direction of every person only engaging in harder content and ignoring roleplay or other fun activities in that area.

Also, you do realize that people who do harder content like Ultimates also mod their characters or their animations to look better? They mod their UIs to look cleaner? Modding isn't just a thing for roleplayers anymore or for people who want to lewd out their characters for gil, it's becoming something that players across all playstyles are using to improve the game.

[ZephyrMenodora]

You're making a lot of assumptions just because someone likes to make their base character look good and anytime I see you post now it's literally just attacking people about modding even if it has nothing to do with the actual topic at hand. We get it, you hate modders. They're not the ones forcing the game in the direction that it is though and it's honestly starting to become a really tired joke to constantly relate the game to a second life type or a casual only experience. The devs are pushing out content to appeal to more than just the hardcore raid scene...because the hardcore raid scene isn't the only community that exists here. Taking away modding or shaming people that use it isn't going to suddenly make them become raiders or somehow encourage a mass exodus from other games to push it in a direction of every person only engaging in harder content.

Also, you do realize that people who do harder content like Ultimates also mod their characters or their animations to look better? They mod their UIs to look cleaner? Modding isn't just a thing for roleplayers anymore or for people who want to lewd out their characters for gil, it's becoming something that players across all playstyles are using to improve the game.

Other games like ESO actually actively encourage mods. They have an in-game mod list on the main title screen as well so you can see what mods you installed. Most of these aren't visual but QoL like map icons and the like.

From many perspectives specific mods are just QoL that the devs haven't gotten around to. I know XIV has policies though, but I don't see every mod as some evil.

[LianaThorne]

Other games like ESO actually actively encourage mods. They have an in-game mod list on the main title screen as well so you can see what mods you installed. Most of these aren't visual but QoL like map icons and the like.

From many perspectives specific mods are just QoL that the devs haven't gotten around to. I know XIV has policies though, but I don't see every mod as some evil.

Speaking from my experience with FF11, plugins and mods there are basically normalized. Bots there are rampant in all of the starter areas. The GMs legitimately don't care, they're talked about openly. I'm not entirely shocked that 14 is taking a similar approach to not caring about modders either considering how it's viewed in their other MMO. This is just an area where people need to kind of grow up and realize that people can play a game however they choose, especially if the GMs and Square itself view it with a blind eye. You literally can't see it unless you install a way to see them and you'd still even need people's Mare codes to see other people at all.

[Jamini]

As of the time of writing Tuesday is set to be my final day playing because upon the conclusion of Pandaemonium's story there is nothing left in the writing for me to look forward to.

[4clubbedace]

Speaking from my experience with FF11, plugins and mods there are basically normalized. Bots there are rampant in all of the starter areas. The GMs legitimately don't care, they're talked about openly. I'm not entirely shocked that 14 is taking a similar approach to not caring about modders either considering how it's viewed in their other MMO. This is just an area where people need to kind of grow up and realize that people can play a game however they choose, especially if the GMs and Square itself view it with a blind eye. You literally can't see it unless you install a way to see them and you'd still even need people's Mare codes to see other people at all.

it should be obvious that the only time Square cares is when its bad publicity. how much CBU3 cares is a bit more blatant, but the only time SQUARE gives a hoot is when theres shit on billboards, trending #'s , or enough nsfw with their 3d models that ERB's start getting on their ass.

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

Well I have been distancing myself from FFXIV the past couple weeks since for me over the years the game is just to easy and boring. Lately been playing Starship Troopers Extermination which has been fun and waiting on Diablo 4 to make a blood magic necromancer build

[Akibaws]

Bored of seeing his face tbh, would be good.

[DPZ2]

Other games like ESO actually actively encourage mods.

ESO PC players enjoy the game with other ESO PC players and have addons. ESO Xbox players enjoy the game with other ESO Xbox players with no addons. ESO PS4 players enjoy the game with other ESO PS4 players with no addons. There are no addons available for either the Xbox or PS4.

FFXIV, with both PC and PS4/PS5 players enjoying the game together will never have official mods for this reason. The console players would be at a disadvantage.