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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Streaming XIV has never been where the money is because most people interested in the game are, you know, playing it.


    Also, you don't have to be abrasive and a jerk to have a personality. There's other personality types than just "angry," but all anyone here seems to care about are the angry streamers lol. Those get the most attention for some reason. Maybe they see it as some form of "alpha male" or something? IDK. I don't even watch XIV streams, other the the clips I've seen where people go crazy.


    I used to watch his guides, because they were good. But again, he lost me with his unhinged rants when his favorite job wasn't the best anymore.
    I think 'personality' is the wrong word. It's more like 'he agrees with me, so I like him'. We're all like that in a way, we just don't like to admit it.
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    I don't get streamers. Most of the ones I've seen clips from are just shouting a lot while they play the game. Maybe I'm just the wrong personality type for that, but all the shouting gets on my nerves. To each their own, but for me, no thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    I think 'personality' is the wrong word. It's more like 'he agrees with me, so I like him'. We're all like that in a way, we just don't like to admit it.
    Not really. And I don’t appreciate you putting words in my mouth. The reason I clicked on him was because maybe he was doing something in XIV that could change my perspective about what people are doing in the game this expansion.

    Imagine my disappointment when he’s doing the same most of us are in game. Nothing.

    What you are doing is just pretending to understand me and speak for me so you can swing my narrative to something less credible and more easy to ignore because you like to push your own agenda.

    I bet you don’t appreciate me reading you like that do you? Then don’t do it to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    I like how this was immediately your go-to response, without even bothering to address anything OP said. Very mature. I believe the only thing you're missing is sticking your tongue out and a "nyah nyah na-nyah nyah" at the end.
    Excuse me? OP posted his opinion, mine is the exact opposite. Different people like different things. I don't have to address all of the OP's points because I don't have the same concerns as him, and I'm not here to argue with him about his OPINION on what he enjoys.

    Edit: Not really worth getting into anything further with someone like this so redacted.
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 05-21-2023 at 03:50 AM.

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    Endwalker as an overall expansion has been my second favorite.

    That being said, the trials currently do suffer from that, but largely because this story just feels very, very filler-y, more so than usual since they don't really have that hook from previous stories in the past expansions, so I would agree for post-expansion yeah. But Zodiark and Hydaelyn were pretty fun for me. I can't say that SB or HW had that same vibe to it for the trials, especially for Thordan and Bismarck. I would say that Endsinger is a... Ehhh, problem. That whole thing would only work if we actually had the original anticipated 2 expansions rather than this crunched-up singular expansion product. Nier IMO was the absolute worst of them all, the others I feel fairly mutual on but I would probably rate them as (In terms of 24-mans): HW > ARR > EW > SB > ShB.
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    I agree but I don't think Endwalker is at the point of runing the game yet, its just mid as fuck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    I agree but I don't think Endwalker is at the point of runing the game yet, its just mid as fuck
    Yeah, it's a multiplication factor. 7.0 will make or break the game because people are upset but are not convinced the game is ruined yet.

    The new expac will bring an explosion of "screw this" or "okay this is why I played this game"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Also, you don't have to be abrasive and a jerk to have a personality. There's other personality types than just "angry," but all anyone here seems to care about are the angry streamers lol. Those get the most attention for some reason. Maybe they see it as some form of "alpha male" or something? IDK. I don't even watch XIV streams, other the the clips I've seen where people go crazy.
    Yeah, call me a snowflake or whatever but I prefer to watch people who are more positive haha. Not necessarily about the games, I am a huge fan of the Game Grumps after all, but more just about how they interact with the world. I feel some of the more ‘angry’ streamers or YouTubers act it up a bit to get more attention, but that could be said about every who develops a fandom, and if people like them then each to their own.

    In regards to FFXIV, the only streamer I watch is Jesse Cox, because he seems like a cool dude and I like his other content too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Not really. And I don’t appreciate you putting words in my mouth. The reason I clicked on him was because maybe he was doing something in XIV that could change my perspective about what people are doing in the game this expansion.

    Imagine my disappointment when he’s doing the same most of us are in game. Nothing.

    What you are doing is just pretending to understand me and speak for me so you can swing my narrative to something less credible and more easy to ignore because you like to push your own agenda.

    I bet you don’t appreciate me reading you like that do you? Then don’t do it to me.
    I'm confident in my own feelings/opinion, so no, I don't mind you trying to twist what I said. Have at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurlstone View Post
    Yeah, call me a snowflake or whatever but I prefer to watch people who are more positive haha. Not necessarily about the games, I am a huge fan of the Game Grumps after all, but more just about how they interact with the world. I feel some of the more ‘angry’ streamers or YouTubers act it up a bit to get more attention, but that could be said about every who develops a fandom, and if people like them then each to their own.

    In regards to FFXIV, the only streamer I watch is Jesse Cox, because he seems like a cool dude and I like his other content too.
    I prefer positive streamers too. I pretty much only listen to MTQCapture's trial guides, as she does a nice succinct summary of what to look for when I'm learning content, and Pathra's FFXIV Drama Story time as she does like the game and her takes on "drama" is more entertaining and light hearted than mean spirited. I used to listen to Zepla on occasion as well before she shifted focus to a new game as a lot of her videos were positive at the time. Her speaking style was a little grating to some people in my household though so I'd have to lower the volume lol.
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