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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Excuse me? OP posted his opinion, mine is the exact opposite. Different people like different things. I don't have to address all of the OP's points because I don't have the same concerns as him, and I'm not here to argue with him about his OPINION on what he enjoys.
    ...you didn't address any of it. You just shot in here with your own agenda to make a (very tired) point with absolutely no interest in anything OP had to say, and it comes across as very childish.

    Edit: ...and you respond to that by refusing to address what was said yet again and shutting yourself off from what you don't want to hear. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.

    I can't help but feel at some point he's going to be left talking to a paper plate on a stick with "ENDWALKER WAS GOOD" written on it, but to each their own.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheriyana View Post
    This is highly debatable, ARR and all the expansions have had their blunders and lots of them but I agree that EW takes the cake [..]
    You made me realise I actually feel nostalgic for Stormblood. To think this is where we are...

    I will absolutely maintain original Asahi is one of the best villains of FFXIV, though.
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    Last edited by Lunaxia; 05-21-2023 at 08:45 AM. Reason: oh dear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    ...you didn't address any of it. You just shot in here with your own agenda to make a (very tired) point with absolutely no interest in anything OP had to say, and it comes across as very childish.
    I didn't come into the thread to attack others. You did and continue to do so. Who is the childish one here?

    Anyway, and you can wait for it.... blocked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    You made me realise I actually feel nostalgic for Stormblood. To think this is where we are...
    I've been nostalgic for Stormblood since halfway into Shadowbringers, because the gameplay didn't make me fall asleep in 90% of the content yet.

    As someone more interested in the pve gameplay that I'm supposed to engage with all the time instead of one and done story I think Shadowbringers wasn't any better than Endwalker, what makes people remember Shadowbringers more fondly is that the plot wasn't the literary equivalent of swiss cheese.

    The complete disaster that was the healer rework (and arguably also Dark Knight), removal of multiple tank mechanics, trials with unnecessarily long cutscenes in the middle of it, Alliance Raids that make you wonder if it's even possible to wipe and the start of pursuing the lowest common denominator in terms of overall job and content design all happened in that expansion.

    What makes me dislike Endwalker is that it doubled down on design decisions that I already hated back in Shadowbringers, it's simply another 2 years of the same.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 05-21-2023 at 04:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    You made me realise I actually feel nostalgic for Stormblood. To think this is where we are...
    Yeah, same, I thought Stormblood was disappointing at the time but we've fallen so far since then... To think at the time the biggest problem with the story was the lack of focus with the story being split into two fronts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheriyana View Post
    Yeah, same, I thought Stormblood was disappointing at the time but we've fallen so far since then... To think at the time the biggest problem with the story was the lack of focus with the story being split into two fronts.
    Stormblood was still riding the high of how good HW was
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    I love how it's always the ones that literally dont play the game or play the game amongst a million other games that will tell you how great EW is

    its really telling
    Rofl half of it is from people who struggle to finish the MSQ before the expansion ends, but have time to come to the forums and post their LSAT score or defend the game etc.
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    I love how it's always the ones that literally dont play the game
    You keep saying this, yet you are the one who says they are only here for housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iedarus View Post
    To be fair the Negative Nancys are important since they're the ones who have the guts to point out the flaws in something. Nowadays, nothing will change unless you raise Hell about it.
    No, no, siding with a profit-maximizing firm who cares about shareholders more than you is what we should do
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    Quote Originally Posted by GaiusDrakon View Post
    No, no, siding with a profit-maximizing firm who cares about shareholders more than you is what we should do
    I will never understand how you all can say profit-maximizing firm like it's an insult.

    They are a business. They are not here for charity, they are here to make a profit. They will never put you or your opinion first unless it's an opinion that makes them profit even more and/or they risk losing serious business by ignoring you, and you should be grateful for this, because more profit means more game. More forum on which to complain too.

    If you think they are being too greedy and not investing enough in giving back fun for what you are paying, feel free to hit them in the only way that counts: that cancel subscription button.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celine_Aurora View Post
    I will never understand how you all can say profit-maximizing firm like it's an insult.

    They are a business. They are not here for charity, they are here to make a profit. They will never put you or your opinion first unless it's an opinion that makes them profit even more and/or they risk losing serious business by ignoring you, and you should be grateful for this, because more profit means more game. More forum on which to complain too.

    If you think they are being too greedy and not investing enough in giving back fun for what you are paying, feel free to hit them in the only way that counts: that cancel subscription button.



    Hey if he unsubs, they'll lose like half their subs.
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