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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Then how do you explain how awesome and unique Zodiark is? It's my favorite EW trial by far and one of my most favorite overall.
    It wasn't awesome or unique. The only unique mechanic was Astral End, which is barely anything. Ramuh ex, Nidhogg ex, even Seiryu ex all have truly unique mechanics. Zodiark was a massive let down for 10 years of buildup.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    All the asteroid and memory stuff in Endsinger is neat. I think the mechanics in the others are really great too, just the aesthetic that I'm not really into. Barbaricca was well-received for example and I thought it was really good, just too green for me, like Rubicante is too much fire for me.
    I didn't find any of them neat or interesting. Barb was just repeated mechanic vomit coming out really fast and I can't even bother to try Rubi ex. Comparing Endsinger ex to Thordan, Shinryu and Hades, it's clear she's by far the worst.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    The Tower of Zot fight's mechanics are fast-paced as well which is a change from a lot of fights.
    Tower of Zot was a great dungeon for its difficulty and I did enjoy the trash and bosses, but it's just a dungeon. Most of the other dungeons suck, especially the dungeon leading up to Endsinger.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    And the raids are great too. I don't know how you can do the current savage raids and not think they are good, memorable and interesting. I know they are for me.
    Both O1s and O5s completely ruined my desire to push any further. Hot cold in O1s was so poorly designed especially for off tanks, and O5s devour was also terribly designed. Neither are even unique. They're not hard, just annoying and anti-fun.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    And what about the 24-person raids? Aglaia was probably one of the most well-received alliance raids in history, if not the most. The Rhalgr fight and the last fight are memorable! The others were interesting too, like Byregot's platform mechanics.
    Algaia was okay, but it left me feeling "Oh, THESE are the gods and goddesses we've been referring to since forever? That's it?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    I love how it's always the ones that literally dont play the game or play the game amongst a million other games that will tell you how great EW is

    its really telling
    I mean Ive played every single FF mainline game (besides FFXV), played multiple MMOs as well as other genres such as fighting games and Ive enjoyed Endwalker.

    My problems with this game stem from the core design of it rather than one expansion. Its usually the babies who enjoy pinning the blame on one single expansion rather than actually being smart and see the bigger picture with this game. Kinda like you.

    I dont mind people disliking EW, I have a couple of friends who dislike it but their reasonings for it are sound and doesnt involve the typical nostalgia goggles and more so in missed potential in the story and personal preference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    I mean Ive played every single FF mainline game (besides FFXV), played multiple MMOs as well as other genres such as fighting games and Ive enjoyed Endwalker.

    My problems with this game stem from the core design of it rather than one expansion. Its usually the babies who enjoy pinning the blame on one single expansion rather than actually being smart and see the bigger picture with this game. Kinda like you.

    I dont mind people disliking EW, I have a couple of friends who dislike it but their reasonings for it are sound and doesnt involve the typical nostalgia goggles and more so in missed potential in the story and personal preference.
    How can I have nostalgia goggles when I started in 2021 ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    I love how it's always the ones that literally dont play the game or play the game amongst a million other games that will tell you how great EW is

    its really telling

    Don't you just do housing? Doesn't that mean you don't play this game?



    I've done almost every piece of content this game offers. Yes, I go through phases where I take short breaks, but I've been playing since 2010. I'm going to get burnt out.



    I just know how to deal with that. If the game ever stopped being fun, I'd just quit. If I'm not having fun what's the point? That seems to be something a lot of people can't grasp for some reason. They must still be young or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    How can I have nostalgia goggles when I started in 2021 ?
    Oh so somehow things were better in Shb era then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Don't you just do housing? Doesn't that mean you don't play this game?



    I've done almost every piece of content this game offers. Yes, I go through phases where I take short breaks, but I've been playing since 2010. I'm going to get burnt out.



    I just know how to deal with that. If the game ever stopped being fun, I'd just quit. If I'm not having fun what's the point? That seems to be something a lot of people can't grasp for some reason. They must still be young or something.
    I am well aware of the content in this game, I have enough friends to know how damn boring this game's content is, else I would do it myself, I literally have people streaming their content be it ultimate (which is the only interesting content) or to the most random roulettes, variant dungeons etc, and aside from ultimate, everything is a complete bore

    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Oh so somehow things were better in Shb era then?
    I did a bit of content back in SHB and it felt more fun to me yes, but a bit far fetched to say "nostalgia"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    It wasn't awesome or unique. The only unique mechanic was Astral End
    Can't agree with that then! The whole rotate thing and flow of it was pretty cool and it was a lot of fun being the dorito in it.

    To be honest, I've been playing the whole time since ARR and I don't feel this way at all. So I suppose you're just burned out by it for whatever reason.

    I can agree with people feeling like Island Sanctuary isn't really replacing Eureka or Bozja and that a lot of this content doesn't promote being social in the same way, or that the normal content is often over telegraphed or not synced well enough for mechanics to matter. I can agree that jobs are being made similar such as MNK and SAM, and soon DRG and RPR, is disappointing, or that the 2-mintue meta makes jobs like DRK less fun, but I still enjoy all of the new fights and story we get.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Oh so somehow things were better in Shb era then?
    Yeah, they weren't. It's probably a bit different for newer people, but the same issues were there in ShB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    I am well aware of the content in this game, I have enough friends to know how damn boring this game's content is, else I would do it myself, I literally have people streaming their content be it ultimate (which is the only interesting content) or to the most random roulettes, variant dungeons etc, and aside from ultimate, everything is a complete bore



    I did a bit of content back in SHB and it felt more fun to me yes, but a bit far fetched to say "nostalgia"
    Literally you have no good point of reference when the changes to this game were this recent and thats even worse. Its actually nostalgia now, just...really really short lived lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Don't you just do housing? Doesn't that mean you don't play this game?



    I've done almost every piece of content this game offers. Yes, I go through phases where I take short breaks, but I've been playing since 2010. I'm going to get burnt out.



    I just know how to deal with that. If the game ever stopped being fun, I'd just quit. If I'm not having fun what's the point? That seems to be something a lot of people can't grasp for some reason. They must still be young or something.
    ding ding ding

    Person: "lol, people literally don't play the game"

    Also Person: "I only login to decorate my house and chat with friends"
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