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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Dumb Memes aside....
    Memes are all we have left. You all said it yourself - Giving suggestions here is basically just us talking into the void.

    It's just funny to see people crack because of this specifically. As if this just happened overnight, when we know what's been happening since Stormblood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    Memes are all we have left. You all said it yourself - Giving suggestions here is basically just us talking into the void.

    It's just funny to see people crack because of this specifically. As if this just happened overnight, when we know what's been happening since Stormblood.
    Memes are fine when used as a general means to be funny, and are not meant to be taken seriously. When they are used as a form of an argument/rebuttal, especially when someone puts a considerable amount of thought into their post, they take on a more condescending tone that shows a lack of respect for the person it is aimed at. Also, Stormblood isn't some holy grail of an expansion. This expansion had a ton of issues with gameplay, story, relic quests, encounter design, the whole nine yards bub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Memes are fine when used as a general means to be funny, and are not meant to be taken seriously. When they are used as a form of an argument/rebuttal, especially when someone puts a considerable amount of thought into their post, they take on a more condescending tone that shows a lack of respect for the person it is aimed at. Also, Stormblood isn't some holy grail of an expansion. This expansion had a ton of issues with gameplay, story, relic quests, encounter design, the whole nine yards bub.
    StormBlood at release was my least favorite expansion. Only expansion I couldn't finish at the time. I was so immensely bored by level 63 in the story I literally unsubbed and didn't return for 2 years until Shadowbringers forced me to finish it. Ended up liking the 2nd half a lot more at least, but I'd rank the early StB experience to be one of the more awful story beats for me personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Memes are fine when used as a general means to be funny, and are not meant to be taken seriously. When they are used as a form of an argument/rebuttal, especially when someone puts a considerable amount of thought into their post, they take on a more condescending tone that shows a lack of respect for the person it is aimed at. Also, Stormblood isn't some holy grail of an expansion. This expansion had a ton of issues with gameplay, story, relic quests, encounter design, the whole nine yards bub.
    Not sure how licking Yoshi's toes was used as a rebuttal. But alright. Atelier-Bagur likes my memes

    And you misread what I said apparently. Since Stormblood. As in, Stormblood was the problem. Technically Heavensward set the nail up, and Stormblood hammered it in.

    It sucks because Stormblood did as much damage as it did good. Just for completely different reasons. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    Not sure how licking Yoshi's toes was used as a rebuttal. But alright. Atelier-Bagur likes my memes

    And you misread what I said apparently. Since Stormblood. As in, Stormblood was the problem. Technically Heavensward set the nail up, and Stormblood hammered it in.

    It sucks because Stormblood did as much damage as it did good. Just for completely different reasons. :/
    Ah, gotcha. My bad. I'm just used to most posters using SB as a time when the game was at the peak of its gameplay when there were as many issues then as now. Just different. I should have read more carefully. The memes I refer to are the GIF inserts that posters around here use to deflect instead of using their own words to rebut another poster's arguments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Ah, gotcha. My bad. I'm just used to most posters using SB as a time when the game was at the peak of its gameplay when there were as many issues then as now. Just different. I should have read more carefully. The memes I refer to are the GIF inserts that posters around here use to deflect instead of using their own words to rebut another poster's arguments.
    We good - I still love this one lol



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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    We good - I still love this one lol



    One of the best I've seen. I couldn't stop laughing the first time I seen it, especially considering the context it was used in. xD
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    Instead of nerfing tanks, they could always make it so damage is more frequent to the point where spamming damage always isn't the meta for healers anymore, i think healers would be alot more fun if they were about managing mana and keeping the party alive through more constant damage and squeezing in damage when they can rather than squeezing out as few heals as possible
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    weird duplicate post, sorry folks

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu View Post
    As long as "Duty Complete = Enemies reached zero HP", everyone will always be trying to squeeze out as much damage as possible.

    What I, personally, thinks makes healing fun and interesting is the choice between "do I, personally, in this moment deal damage, directly, myself" vs. "do I, personally, cast <something> on my party mates, so that they're in a better position to continue dealing more damage."

    Put another way, what I, personally, thinks making healing fun and interesting is deciding, moment to moment, how best to enable the party as a whole to deal the most damage possible
    I originally felt this way when I started playing healer, but then you soon realize that window decision making for damage vs healing gets wider and wider, aka. you realize that you occasionally pop in a heal while you majorly focus on damage, rather than the other way around.
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