Final Fantasy XIV Hot Takes

[RyuDragnier]

The poster I replied to specifically cited real world examples. Hence why it was mentioned. You could clearly see this in the post already.

In any case, my point is this: it's overdone. The power of friendship is in all manner of anime, it has found its way into western media with increasing frequency, and it's all over many video games too. There are other tropes out there they could be putting to use.

With increasing frequency? My man, have you ever READ comic books? Even the original comics had it in spades.

[Absimiliard]

With increasing frequency? My man, have you ever READ comic books? Even the original comics had it in spades.

I have. Got quite a collection, if I do say so myself. I didn't used to mind the trope, although I found some instances of it to be incredibly dumb. Comics made frequent use of it, but it was largely (but not completely) absent from much other western media until comparatively recently. My main gripe is simply that it's bloody everywhere now, including in FFXIV.

Using it once in a while is fine, but damned if this game doesn't practically run on it.

[Shurrikhan]

It's a major trope due to actual real life things. You're a general, and your army is about to be routed...but then those allies you made the kingdom over have marched to aid you, and you win the day.

Or, as slightly more often featured historically, when your allies are faced with poor odds at any particularly critical juncture for you, they abandon or even betray you unless you've sufficiently made their future success dependent upon you, which tends far more towards political maneuvering and manipulation, or exploitation of a resource that'd otherwise lack power in itself, than "the power of friendship".

Moreover, one of the main issues is in where and when that trope plays out: mid-battle for instance, is rarely a time in which there's time and/or value in reaffirming that y'all are friends. That shit comes before, and usually by different terms and per a fairly different slate.

To be clear, I don't have anything against tropes that acquiring more allies / popular support, and to a point putting one's own identity, values, interests, or safety on the line in order to order to achieve that popular support and a broader good... when it isn't so overused as to muddle or bury other, more nuanced ones. When those tropes narrow down to your iconic "Power of friEndsHip!" though, that's all too often the cost.

[BRVV]

Are there times where it's used poorly? Sure. But I can't really fault the trope itself versus writers just using it poorly.

I think it was poorly used. You may disagree. Do they ever need this power somewhere else? No. It's the "beat-the-final-boss-with-friendship" thing. I hate this. It's so lame

[Gralna]

I have. Got quite a collection, if I do say so myself. I didn't used to mind the trope, although I found some instances of it to be incredibly dumb. Comics made frequent use of it, but it was largely (but not completely) absent from much other western media until comparatively recently. My main gripe is simply that it's bloody everywhere now, including in FFXIV.

Using it once in a while is fine, but damned if this game doesn't practically run on it.

Guess I watch much different anime then, most of the ones I watch, have message that you need to learn to fight for yourself, because fighting for your friends can be used against you or that your friends ultimately can't be there for you all the time.

[Jkap_Goat]

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ff16 look like DmC with it's Hack and Slash

[Boblawblah]

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ff16 look like DmC with it's Hack and Slash

I haven't seen too much of it, but if it's like Stranger of Paradise at all, I'll be fine. DMC is a bit too fast for me I think.

[Shougun]

I haven't seen too much of it, but if it's like Stranger of Paradise at all, I'll be fine. DMC is a bit too fast for me I think.

They have game options to make it more accessible, including time slow for dodges. Not saying everyone has to like action combat but it's accessible enough that anyone could pick options to play it. At one point Yoshida turned on all the options and played the fight with one button.

[DiaDeem]

I have one, actually: Footsteps in the Snow is better than Oblivion, and it's the best Shiva theme in this game.

[Mimilu]

I have one, actually: Footsteps in the Snow is better than Oblivion, and it's the best Shiva theme in this game.

For me:
Return to Oblivion > Oblivion (Orchestral Version) > Footsteps in the Snow > Oblivion >/= Oblivion (Pulse Remix)
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