Yoshi-P: "If you want more engaging content, go play Ultimate"

[Sebazy]

my favorite part about abyssos was that healers complained about having nothing to do and then screeched "AAAAIIIIEEEEE NO NOT LIKE THIS" when they had to do p5s, p7s, and p8s

Have you considered that they might not be the same crowd?

We've had big healer checks before, Godka was great to heal and you didn't see much whining about it back then at least not to my memory.

So what's changed? Well if I look at my own FC (Entropy, multiple world firsts in Ultimate and Savage) and my group which is a bit of a retirement home within the FC, it's pretty clear at least within my circle. All the healers burnt out over the course of Shadowbringers. I was lucky to play alongside some of the best healers in Europe and now they are pretty much all gone.

I'd wonder how many of those healers struggling with this tier were around for Coil/Alex/Omega?

With no sarcasm or schadenfreude at all, I genuinely hope they make the healing checks in the next Ultimate so hard that people are taking 3 Healers during prog just to get to the next phases. Make the DPS checks lenient but the Healing required insane.

The problem is that they arguably couldn't do this if they tried. Or rather they could, but they'd need to really rewrite the rulebook on a lot of things.

Our kits are just too strong relative to our overall HP pool/survivability and the accepted pace of typical Savage/Ultimate mechanics which are generally more puzzles than outright damage/hps tests these days.

The only way I can see it working is if they throw a huge HP buff on us and turn it into an attrition fight whilst also throwing in some retro Allagan Rot style mechanic to keep the group sufficiently spread out requiring triage style whackamole single target heals rather than just deleting the bad with Asylum/Soil. Personally, I'd actually quite like that, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for SE to be bold enough to actually try it as things stand.

Also you do realise that TOP is already the content where people aren't able to handle it and quit, groups break up, etc etc right?