We really should be able to glamour other jobs' sets

[ty_taurus]

I'll say the same to you as I have the other parrots: This argument holds no water. Role restrictions on gear are not put in place because of their appearance. They are in place because the stats make them incompatible with both glamour systems that are in place. You can cry about revamping the system all you want, but it's not going to change anytime soon. They can however, release replicas.

I'm not sure if you know this or not, but when you glamour your equipment, your gear retains the same stats is normally has. It does not replace those stats with the stats of your choice of glamour. For example, let's say you're wearing the Abyssos Cuirass of Fending which has:

1121 Defense & 1121 Magic Defense
336 Strength
363 Vitality
273 Critical Hit
191 Determination

If you were to glamour the Calfskin Rider's Jacket to the Cuirass, which has 9 Defense, 16 Magic Defense, and no other stats, you still have the stats from the Cuirass, the 1121 Defense/Magic Defense, the 336 Strength, etc...

Does that make sense?

[keichirou]

I'll say the same to you as I have the other parrots: This argument holds no water. Role restrictions on gear are not put in place because of their appearance. They are in place because the stats make them incompatible with both glamour systems that are in place. You can cry about revamping the system all you want, but it's not going to change anytime soon. They can however, release replicas.

As for job, race, and gender. They don't need to rationalize anything to you. If they don't want particular jobs, races, or genders to have access, then that's that. DoH gear is the only exception in my eyes, and I started a thread on why I think this gear should have restrictions lifted, and that reasoning has absolutely nothing to do with tanking in a bikini. Think for yourself for once.

are you a programmer ?
game dev?
design dev?....
something related to gaming or 3d programing?
uhmm....do you know someone in that field at least?
because i was a game designer and you talk nonsense....one thing has nothing to do with the other

[Estecka]

This argument holds no water. Role restrictions on gear are not put in place because of their appearance. They are in place because the stats make them incompatible with both glamour systems that are in place. You can cry about revamping the system all you want, but it's not going to change anytime soon

What are you on about? If reworking existing systems was out of the question, this game would never receive any updates or bugfixes.
Role restrictions make sense for directly equipping an item, but glamour has conceptually nothing to do with stats at all. Just because current the glamour system somehow depends on it, doesn't mean it is necessary for it to remain that way.

[Saraide]

I'll say the same to you as I have the other parrots: This argument holds no water. Role restrictions on gear are not put in place because of their appearance. They are in place because the stats make them incompatible with both glamour systems that are in place. You can cry about revamping the system all you want, but it's not going to change anytime soon. They can however, release replicas.

As for job, race, and gender. They don't need to rationalize anything to you. If they don't want particular jobs, races, or genders to have access, then that's that. DoH gear is the only exception in my eyes, and I started a thread on why I think this gear should have restrictions lifted, and that reasoning has absolutely nothing to do with tanking in a bikini. Think for yourself for once.

This poster is insanely full of themselves on no basis at all. ARR gear was just equipable by more jobs than could benefit from it. Also the preorder earring exist. The sheer combination of being completely wrong but also overconfident to an extreme degree is just mindboggling.

[Gemina]

are you a programmer ?
game dev?
design dev?....
something related to gaming or 3d programing?
uhmm....do you know someone in that field at least?
because i was a game designer and you talk nonsense....one thing has nothing to do with the other

I have a BA in computer science and programmed for 15 years, so yeah, I know a thing or two about it. However, all it takes is common sense to know how the two glamour systems in FFXIV work. You can't take a piece of gear assigned to one role and use it as glamour for another role. This is a result of the game's programming. I can reflect the question back to you and ask why this is so difficult for you to understand. Other than your feelings being hurt.

It is also common sense that in order give to players the glamours they want that is within the limitations of the current systems, all they have to do is release replicas. This is far easier than changing how the two systems currently work. The devs have stated that they are willing to do this, and they have done it. Just not with everything as this would take some time.

You can deflect all you want and question my credibility on such matters, but it changes nothing. It is what it is, and you're just butt hurt because I don't join in the chorus of "waaah, why can't I have everything."

This poster is insanely full of themselves on no basis at all. ARR gear was just equipable by more jobs than could benefit from it. Also the preorder earring exist. The sheer combination of being completely wrong but also overconfident to an extreme degree is just mindboggling.

You got me. I think you even know me better than I know myself.

[Xirean]

I have a BA in computer science and programmed for 15 years, so yeah, I know a thing or two about it. However, all it takes is common sense to know how the two glamour systems in FFXIV work. You can't take a piece of gear assigned to one role and use it as glamour for another role. This is a result of the game's programming. I can reflect the question back to you and ask why this is so difficult for you to understand. Other than your feelings being hurt.

It is also common sense that in order give to players the glamours they want that is within the limitations of the current systems, all they have to do is release replicas. This is far easier than changing how the two systems currently work. The devs have stated that they are willing to do this, and they have done it. Just not with everything as this would take some time.

Releasing replicas is one solution and it's one I would be ok with. However the issue you present of the glamours being restricted to a specific role/job is pretty clearly an assignment based issue for the appearance exclusively. You can already mix and match items that can't be glammed together in the glamour dresser and see what those resulting outfits would look like. The gear doesn't even have clipping problems like you would expect from two things not designed to go together. Considering we've never had a statement (that I am aware of) on the technical difficulty of this issue does give players freedom to speculate though. Either way, it's a silly problem.

[Estecka]

This is a result of the game's programming. I can reflect the question back to you and ask why this is so difficult for you to understand.

And water is wet; everything in the game is the result of its programming. The question being asked is why would that programming be impossible to change, as opposed to other things that have been changed during the game's lifetime.

in order give to players the glamours they want that is within the limitations of the current systems, all they have to do is release replicas. This is far easier than changing how the two systems currently work. The devs have stated that they are willing to do this, and they have done it. Just not with everything as this would take some time.

While I wouldn't say no to more replicas, they're just a bandaid. If they are being drip-fed to use, then there's always going to be some gear somewhere with no replica. If somehow every single equippable gear ended up with a replica, the list of items would be absolutely bloated (especially on the marketplace).
Changing the system altogether is easily the more future-proof solution, avoids bloating the list of items, and offers the most coverage.

[ty_taurus]

I have a BA in computer science and programmed for 15 years, so yeah, I know a thing or two about it. However, all it takes is common sense to know how the two glamour systems in FFXIV work. You can't take a piece of gear assigned to one role and use it as glamour for another role. This is a result of the game's programming. I can reflect the question back to you and ask why this is so difficult for you to understand. Other than your feelings being hurt.

This is a massive red flag to me that you do not understand what you’re talking about. For starters, you have no idea what the programming of FFXIV looks like, so how on Earth can you speak in absolutes of what can and cannot be done within it? Game programming is not a one-size-fits-all system. You’re just being really rude for no good reason.

[Boblawblah]

I have a BA in computer science and programmed for 15 years, so yeah, I know a thing or two about it. However, all it takes is common sense to know how the two glamour systems in FFXIV work. You can't take a piece of gear assigned to one role and use it as glamour for another role. This is a result of the game's programming. I can reflect the question back to you and ask why this is so difficult for you to understand. Other than your feelings being hurt.

It is also common sense that in order give to players the glamours they want that is within the limitations of the current systems, all they have to do is release replicas. This is far easier than changing how the two systems currently work. The devs have stated that they are willing to do this, and they have done it. Just not with everything as this would take some time.

You can deflect all you want and question my credibility on such matters, but it changes nothing. It is what it is, and you're just butt hurt because I don't join in the chorus of "waaah, why can't I have everything."


You got me. I think you even know me better than I know myself.

all that programming knowledge and your argument still comes down to 'they have it programmed to not let people do that'. Yes, everyone knows it's currently not allowed. That's why people are hoping them to change it.

Also, why do you belittle people with your comments?

[keichirou]

I have a BA in computer science and programmed for 15 years, so yeah, I know a thing or two about it. However, all it takes is common sense to know how the two glamour systems in FFXIV work. You can't take a piece of gear assigned to one role and use it as glamour for another role. This is a result of the game's programming. I can reflect the question back to you and ask why this is so difficult for you to understand. Other than your feelings being hurt.

It is also common sense that in order give to players the glamours they want that is within the limitations of the current systems, all they have to do is release replicas. This is far easier than changing how the two systems currently work. The devs have stated that they are willing to do this, and they have done it. Just not with everything as this would take some time.

You can deflect all you want and question my credibility on such matters, but it changes nothing. It is what it is, and you're just butt hurt because I don't join in the chorus of "waaah, why can't I have everything."


You got me. I think you even know me better than I know myself.

Again, taking absolute nonsense, this clearly show me you know nothing...
Might wanna ask a refund for your education....
The mod community are more skilled than you and they dont have access to the source code , that should be enough statement.
You're just making excuses....yes, yes you love the game blah blah go play it.