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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Supposedly they're working on an offline version of FFXI they can release before taking the game's online servers offline due to it being a numerical main line title in the franchise series.

    IMO I'd rather they go with making a brand new MMO keeping FFXI's original design philosophy intact with as much or more mechanical details including all the small hidden ones people don't find without experimenting.
    Yeah. Something like this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    I don't know. A lot of the philosophies get circumvented by data miners and spreadsheet enthusiasts. Goes up on BG-Wiki or FFXIclopedia, or other sites in days of yore. You try to figure stuff out yourself? Lost for hours. Look it up from the data miners who figure it out by botting/reverse engineering the game etc. Smoothish sailing. Find something they didn't maybe, somehow? Ridiculed/told you're wrong/you're just eyeballin' it etc. All hail the sacred spreadsheet!

    An offline version sounds interesting. I'd love to see how they balance it.
    Man you really seem against it lol. Despite all this I think it'd be good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Yeah. Something like this.



    Man you really seem against it lol. Despite all this I think it'd be good.

    Nah, not against the idea. Just intimately familiar with XI's playerbase over the years as well as its design. As fun as it is, you're always fighting against some other person's perception of what's a good job combo, good group comp, and what's "meaningful" content. And when I say fighting against, I mean a lot of the time you can't get into groups unless you make your own, or you play a job you don't want to play.

    It's been a huge problem for the game's entire lifespan. There's supremely useful jobs for buffing and support like White Mage and Bard(or Corsair and Geomancer). They're borderline required for high end fights. However, everyone wants to be a Dark Knight, Samurai, Warrior, or Monk (and in the current era a BLU or a RDM). And a lot of the battles require those support jobs to basically stand still only using their buffing moves/cures on cooldown and nothing else (though I think the most recent, recent content is only 6 man, so it has everyone have to get in on meleeing/dpsing).

    As much as I love FFXI, its blessing and its curse has always been how unbalanced it is and how its players play with this imbalance. It is the most meta gaming you will ever see/read, with passionate guide makers only finally putting in transitional gearsets instead of only the pinnacle BIS goals in their guides in very recent years. Most folks who've never given up playing it have always held the mindset, "What's the absolute best gear I can get? Ok, everything below that is transitional garbage, and I shouldn't even bother with half of it."

    Trust me, if a new XI comes out, and it's 99% accurate to XI whether it's current or old XI, almost every newbie who tries it will say it's too hard and cumbersome of a grind, while any old salts that pick it up will adopt the mindset of domination.
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