Allow us to hide other people's glamour

[ZephyrMenodora]

Time to test out a new gift I received yesterday. Just in time for this overdone topic.

[NekoMataMata]

I already read it, and I deemed talk of third party devices and mods in regard to this subjject as irrelevant as 1) its against ToS to discuss them 2) we are talking about toggling the intended vanilla appearance of items in the game. You have no point to be made with discussing third party tools and mods as the development team would not likely take them into account for a request like this. That discussion is unnecessary and unrequired and using it for justifying the implementation of a so-called "harmless" toggle is nonsensical and bordering on inane.

Thus, it did not need to be addressed as the very fact you are bringing up third party tools and mods is irrelevant in the first place.

I was bringing up 3pp tools and mods in reference to the fact that these also act as toggles. Does using player created modded outfits instead of the gear in the game not "invalidate the work the dev team puts into making the gear"?

I'm not here to witch hunt, nor do I care about who uses mods or who doesn't, but it's a valid point. The problem you're complaining about has already occurred. It's already happened even if it's not in the vanilla game. So, in that case, what's the harm in letting vanilla players have access to a toggle that ends up creating the same issue that you've stated?

[ZephyrMenodora]

And so be it if YOU want to be sexual. But players should be given the option to remove sexual fetishes from their OWN game.

This isn’t your game. Grow up.

[Aniya_Estlihn]

what's the harm in letting vanilla players have access to a toggle that ends up creating the same issue that you've stated?

Because we know the dev team does not make decisions based upon how people utilize cosmetic mods? They pay attention to third party tools, sure, but mods are another story. Its not a valid point as it has no basis in reality nor a leg to stand on. There is a difference between a third party tool doing so and the development team choosing to willfully invalidate and hide their own work. It's unrealistic and will not happen.

I'm sure they don't like that people mod out the appearance of gear to their liking as is, so why give an official means to do so when the likes of those third party tools are probably hated?

Edit: Also I want to point out a thread for this has existed since 2020. It's 349 pages long, use that or read through it. This has been discussed to death by now with no change, it's never going to happen for the reasons I and others have brought up time and again.
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...our%29/page349

[Hurlstone]

And so be it if YOU want to be sexual. But players should be given the option to remove sexual fetishes from their OWN game.

What about NPCs who dress in a sexy manner? Do you think the game, which nether of us own, should cover them up? ARR has alot of them rocking the leather harnesses. What about people who put a lot of effort into their glams, many lore-appropriate for their class, race or background? Honestly if people want a glam block then sure, why not? We should try and please as many people as we can, but I cannot say I understand the need though. Eorzea is meant to feel like a world with living people and adventurers, and rarely do such people dress in unison.

[DayHealer]

Because we know the dev team does not make decisions based upon how people utilize cosmetic mods? They pay attention to third party tools, sure, but mods are another story. Its not a valid point as it has no basis in reality nor a leg to stand on. There is a difference between a third party tool doing so and the development team choosing to willfully invalidate and hide their own work. It's unrealistic and will not happen.

Third part tools are even worst than just a glamour toggle, just saying, they are all strictly forbidden. But to the topic at hand:

We all know a toggle button will never happen, but if for some miracle it happens I dont really see a problem. This is a subscription game, devs are paid for their work, if some people prefer to ignore some content in the game they are in all their right.
More power to the people, like they say..

[NekoMataMata]

Because we know the dev team does not make decisions based upon how people utilize cosmetic mods? They pay attention to third party tools, sure, but mods are another story. Its not a valid point as it has no basis in reality nor a leg to stand on. There is a difference between a third party tool doing so and the development team choosing to willfully invalidate and hide their own work. It's unrealistic and will not happen.

I'm sure they don't like that people mod out the appearance of gear to their liking as is, so why give an official means to do so when the likes of those third party tools are probably hated?

Edit: Also I want to point out a thread for this has existed since 2020. It's 349 pages long, use that or read through it. This has been discussed to death by now with no change, it's never going to happen for the reasons I and others have brought up time and again.
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...our%29/page349

So now you've shifted the goal post from it simply being in poor taste to invalidate and hide the work the dev team puts into the designing of the gears in the game to suggesting that it's unrealistic and that it won't happen.

Does this game not have a history of adding QoL features that were once restricted to mods/3rd party tools that SE has always had a "don't ask, don't tell" policy about? They might not have made decisions based specifically on the use of cosmetic mods, but there's always a first time for everything.

Also side note, I put a lot of work into my glams. It's a bit unfair that through the use of mods people can just hide them, but that's how it is, isn't it? Why not just allow everyone to have access to the same QoL in that case. I mean did you know there's 3rd party tools that let you hide entire characters as well? I suppose you'd be against that but I feel like it's fair for something like that to be added to the game as well.

Many, many players in this game are already using 3rd party tools/mods to essentially live in their own worlds or bubbles, ignoring the great population of the MMO. Why should vanilla players be denied that? Both the culture you seem to be against, and the so called disrespect towards the developers is already occurring, so why not allow everyone to have ability to do so if they want?

[ZephyrMenodora]

So now you've shifted the goal post from it simply being in poor taste to invalidate and hide the work the dev team puts into the designing of the gears in the game to suggesting that it's unrealistic and that it won't happen.

Does this game not have a history of adding QoL features that were once restricted to mods/3rd party tools that SE has always had a "don't ask, don't tell" policy about? They might not have made decisions based specifically on the use of cosmetic mods, but there's always a first time for everything.

Also side note, I put a lot of work into my glams. It's a bit unfair that through the use of mods people can just hide them, but that's how it is, isn't it? Why not just allow everyone to have access to the same QoL in that case. I mean did you know there's 3rd party tools that let you hide entire characters as well? I suppose you'd be against that but I feel like it's fair for something like that to be added to the game as well.

Many, many players in this game are already using 3rd party tools/mods to essentially live in their own worlds or bubbles, ignoring the great population of the MMO. Why would vanilla players be denied that?

When have they added QoL that contradicts one of the games core advertised features (fashion- it’s on the website). Fashion is also a feature that contributes to the glorious amount of money XIV makes so why would they bother because a few trolls can’t handle a bikini.

Sorry for Op and those like him but every mmo I’ve played had some amount of more revealing clothing options.

Anyway posting another gift so I stay strong. Too much time on this repetitive bait as is.

[HeyMcFly]

As much as I hate the miqo'te in a baseball cap and oversized shirt; as much as their lack of creativity or originality is further stunted by the lack of options given.... they're here to stay

I make sure to wear little bikini bottoms on my lalafell while summoning a dummy thicc Titan who's rock-hard bottom bounces onto their screen and blocks their view

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Dont like the Glamour? Dont look at it.
Dont like that it exists? To Bad, just look away.
Cant look away, its everywhere? Then you arnt trying hard enough