Counterpoint to all the Debbie Downers lately...

[BRVV]

The game in reality vs. the game presented here in the forums are not the same game.

I log in 7 days a week, play with my many friends I've made in the FC and have an absolute blast doing so. In my roughly two years here I've never heard ONE person moaning about what you see here on the forums. We have a great time and will continue to do so.

Good for you. I saw a lot of people quit (forever possibly) in the last year. But yeah there are still folks who have fun. I even see more sprouts lately (maybe because of the free login? or not) There are also still bots fishing... we do however have a lot less people online than during 6.0 hype. Source: i can get in in less than 3 hours.

[Boblawblah]

I'm good with having Magnai as a main character, but we get Sadu as well.

[Theodric]

G'raha Tia doesn't exist. He's a fictional character. He has no thoughts or feelings of his own and there very likely isn't anyone in the real world who looks or acts like he does.

It isn't 'homophobic' to criticise or dislike a character. Some people will attempt to imply otherwise, though they also appear to be doing so largely on the basis of stirring the pot and causing as much drama as possible. Once again, I'll refer to something I posted earlier - for someone supposedly eager to 'keep a distance' from the poster in question, there's some increasingly desperate attempts to try and bait him into showing up to defend himself against abhorrent accusations.

I think it's pretty clear that this isn't going anywhere civil or productive, though and I'm not particularly interested in arguing excessively with individuals who seem to believe that they can police what gay men should be attracted to and want to see more of where fictional characters are concerned.

Not everybody comes here to engage in activism or to encourage grand societal change, after all.

[Hurlstone]

I'm good with having Magnai as a main character, but we get Sadu as well.

*steals GIF of one of my fav NPCs*

[Tehmon]

G'raha Tia doesn't exist. He's a fictional character. He has no thoughts or feelings of his own and there very likely isn't anyone in the real world who looks or acts like he does.

It isn't 'homophobic' to criticise or dislike a character. Some people will attempt to imply otherwise, though they also appear to be doing so largely on the basis of stirring the pot and causing as much drama as possible. Once again, I'll refer to something I posted earlier - for someone supposedly eager to 'keep a distance' from the poster in question, there's some increasingly desperate attempts to try and bait him into showing up to defend himself against abhorrent accusations.

I think it's pretty clear that this isn't going anywhere civil or productive, though and I'm not particularly interested in arguing excessively with individuals who seem to believe that they can police what gay men should be attracted to and want to see more of where fictional characters are concerned.

Not everybody comes here to engage in activism or to encourage grand societal change, after all.

What do you think '' how dare you police what gay men should be attracted to '' is? What do you think '' gay men tire of the attempts to associated feminine and campy behaviour with homosexuality '' is? Just simple arguments with absolutely no political bias? Come on now..

[AwesomeJr44]

G'raha Tia doesn't exist. He's a fictional character. He has no thoughts or feelings of his own and there very likely isn't anyone in the real world who looks or acts like he does.

It isn't 'homophobic' to criticise or dislike a character. Some people will attempt to imply otherwise, though they also appear to be doing so largely on the basis of stirring the pot and causing as much drama as possible. Once again, I'll refer to something I posted earlier - for someone supposedly eager to 'keep a distance' from the poster in question, there's some increasingly desperate attempts to try and bait him into showing up to defend himself against abhorrent accusations.

I think it's pretty clear that this isn't going anywhere civil or productive, though and I'm not particularly interested in arguing excessively with individuals who seem to believe that they can police what gay men should be attracted to and want to see more of where fictional characters are concerned.

Not everybody comes here to engage in activism or to encourage grand societal change, after all.

This all should just be common sense. It's literally just a video game.

[Leifei]

That didn't even crossed my mind. Bard DoTs or just all DoTs in general, which includes my Higanbana. Did they remove PLD DoT? I don't play Tanks to know... or anything besides Samurai (obviously)

I doubt Higanbana is going anywhere. It's our biggest damage button and fits so well in burst windows.

[Theodric]

I'm inclined to believe that he's referring to the typical tastes in the real world as opposed to niche tastes largely limited to the internet. By all means, I'd be very interested in seeing random women - and men - who don't play FFXIV shown G'raha and Henry Cavill only to be asked which of the two they prefer.

What do you think '' how dare you police what gay men should be attracted to '' is? What do you think '' gay men tire of the attempts to associated feminine and campy behaviour with homosexuality '' is? Just simple arguments with absolutely no political bias? Come on now..

I don't subscribe to the idea that being gay is something that is necessarily obvious at a glance or even something that needs to be made political/considered to be a big deal in the first place. The majority of homophobia and reinforcement of negative gay stereotypes I have experienced throughout my life has also come from those who claim to support us the most, for whatever that may be worse.

The game also attracts players from many different countries, cultures, backgrounds and belief systems so any attempt to drag real world politics into forum discussions is arguably done in bad faith in the first place. It's intended to be little more than a bludgeon to go after a poster that a handful of posters allow to live rent free within their heads and the fact that they're still so angry over specific posts made quite a while ago should be self evident of the real agenda at play here.

This isn't a venue for political activism, no matter how much certain posters want to get the dopamine rush of masquerading as a 'good person' because they happen to parrot a specific set of views and opinions. It's a video game forum.

[aveyond-dreams]

Well as we can see from the past several pages this is what happens when a game that used to have strong pillars upholding it like good story and content fall to pieces. This isn't how I pictured Endwalker would go at all. By this point I would've wanted to be grinding some Lunar Ruins deep dungeon or relic zone set in Ivalice. Not dealing with people that as far as I care to read up on take issue with me not wanting to play a game where basic attractiveness has been subverted in favor of this:



But by all means, keep it along with Island Sanctuary, Variant Dungeons, and Eureka Orthos. The people who gleefully pushed out those of us who wanted a high fantasy mmorpg with cool aesthetics have won out unless we get a surprise in the NA fanfest when the 7.0 trailer drops us in Ilsabard instead of copypasted fantasy Australia with G'raha Tia flipping burgers in the background. With how dreadful content has been this expansion and with people all too eager to remind us that the "majority" are ok with this I can't imagine how it could get any worse.

I don't see why I should act repentant. Not like it matters now anyway. Etheirys has become a world devoid of the things that once drew me to FFXIV in the first place. All that's left after Endwalker is a world wherein no higher threats exist than those we've already defeated, no gods or religions of import save Venat's co-conspirators, no plot relevant kingdoms left to visit, characters that didn't grow after 10 years of waiting still around, and no new content worth doing until halfway through 7.0 probably. So what, 2025? That just isn't acceptable.

I look forward to seeing the Luckybancho and Steam metrics for the later months of this year, that's for certain. When FFXIV becomes this again, let me know.

[BRVV]

Not dealing with people that as far as I care to read up on take issue with me not wanting to play a game where basic attractiveness has been subverted in favor of this

Aren't both female Roes...? Don't see much of a difference in appearence.

Joke answer:
We have adorable Lalas. No need for sexy! Bonk police activated!