Play other games :)

[TowaIsBestGirl]

No one is gatekeeping anything. Disagreement is not akin to allowing or disallowing. Heck, if anything it seems more like positivity is the thing that is discouraged the most on here. Sure there will be trolls pushing the bar, but if we judged everything by their standards then we are doomed.

Everyone and their father is a victim, I suppose. Personally, I despise the very idea of being a victim so I reject it outright. My own approach is instead of whinging and attempting to invite pity, if I feel like I'm not being heard I'm gonna keep talking and putting my views out there. Maybe I'm just beating my head bloody and raw against the walls of an Imperial Castrum, but I'm stubborn and very spiteful, to me the victim mindset is the true attempt at throwing the white flag up. If nothing else, I try my best to remain polite and refrain from attacking the person instead of the argument. Would that some present here could follow that fairly common example of upstanding citizenry. We teach our children these things, come on people.

I agree criticism is a needed aspect of any media, but to be fair though, the ‘posters that roll up to trash you’ thing often happens if you speak positively of the game too. People have even used the same excuse you say to justify being disrespectful of negative posts, that they are ‘just tired of it.’ You are right that such debates can fall into ‘mockery and various accusations.’ but it is in no way unique to one side either. It would be great if every topic could be well-written and throughout examinations of the game, but in this environment thats near on impossible to carry on past a few pages. Plus when it comes to subjective aspects like story, we are all pushed by our own bias viewpoints.

I find it odd and conspicuous how the convenience of both-sides-ism only ever surfaces as a defense for one side being assailed. Strangely when both sides are actively engaged in zealotry the -ism is startlingly absent. Curious, that.

[Hurlstone]

Everyone and their father is a victim, I suppose. Personally, I despise the very idea of being a victim so I reject it outright. My own approach is instead of whinging and attempting to invite pity, if I feel like I'm not being heard I'm gonna keep talking and putting my views out there. Maybe I'm just beating my head bloody and raw against the walls of an Imperial Castrum, but I'm stubborn and very spiteful, to me the victim mindset is the true attempt at throwing the white flag up. If nothing else, I try my best to remain polite and refrain from attacking the person instead of the argument. Would that some present here could follow that fairly common example of upstanding citizenry. We teach our children these things, come on people.



I find it odd and conspicuous how the convenience of both-sides-ism only ever surfaces as a defense for one side being assailed. Strangely when both sides are actively engaged in zealotry the -ism is startlingly absent. Curious, that.

To be fair, this is a forum where most of the topics are about pixels on a screen. Being on the minority opinion/position is not enough for one to be a victim, and I apologise if my words seem to echo so. Again, this is just a video game, not Parliament or the UN. I agree with your comments about being civil, but even the most well moderated and open forums struggle with that. Plus these threads have at times, due to trolling or not, gone into areas of personal insults and real world topics. In those cases, I can understand why people decide not to be tolerant of intolerance.

[AwesomeJr44]

if I feel like I'm not being heard I'm gonna keep talking and putting my views out there. Maybe I'm just beating my head bloody and raw against the walls of an Imperial Castrum, but I'm stubborn

This is how I use the forums. I have my opinions and I'm going to post them if I so choose. People can screech and whine about that if they want, but angry rants from Vel, raids from Renalt and his posse, or trolling from Titanman isn't going to convince me to do otherwise. Ironically, the best way to convince me to change my opinions is the one that no one seems willing to do. Actual genuine discussion about a topic.

If nothing else, I try my best to remain polite and refrain from attacking the person instead of the argument.

Once you have been here long enough, you will learn that some people are just not worthy of respect. You can be as polite as you possibly can be, and they'll still treat you with utter malice.

I get too much comedy out of it to use the ignore feature. Can't be bothered to reply to the same arguments all the time, but the verbal dancing is kinda fun sometimes.

I am of the same opinion. I have only a very select number of people on my ignore list, and those spots are reserved only for those who manage to not only be annoying, but also unfunny while doing it.