Play other games :)

[AwesomeJr44]

Across every mmorpg I've ever played, when it became clear that standards were objectively slipping and people brought this up, we'd always get told to just quit if we didn't like it. I'll never understand this perspective. Barring some obvious trolls, generally speaking someone who cares enough to waste their time going to the forums to address the game's trajectory probably isn't just doing it to shit on your favorite toy. They don't want to quit. They want to watch the game succeed where so many other mmos peaked and then got complacent and failed before it.

^ This. 1000% this.

Too many games have horrific battle passes, which is a problem in and of itself. I've recently just settled on casual games like Genshin and Star Rail, probably Zenless Zone Zero when that comes out. It's sad to say, but I trust Gacha devs more in making a quality product than SE, at this point.

Battle passes are a cancer upon gaming. They're very similar to streaming services in that the more of them there are, the worse each one is.

It's why I did it till I decided to just ignore them instead.

It took so many months of people telling you to do so, but at least you finally developed a bit of self control. I'll give you kudos on the character development.

I pray that this is not true, but I know deep down that it very well might be.

[SturmChurro]

Battle passes are a cancer upon gaming. They're very similar to streaming services in that the more of them there are, the worse each one is.

God, DON'T get me started on them, AND the problem is, the community largely SUPPORTS them! Yeah, they can be great for driving players to a goal, and getting players back into games for each season, but they are inherently AWFUL. This is a trend I absolutely detest in games. Literally, like every game has one now too! It's a matter of severity; just how much they expect you to grind for it. Combining fomo with it all too.. "Oh it's just cosmetics".. I LIKE cosmetics. -.-

[Misplaced_Marbles]

God, DON'T get me started on them, AND the problem is, the community largely SUPPORTS them! Yeah, they can be great for driving players to a goal, and getting players back into games for each season, but they are inherently AWFUL. This is a trend I absolutely detest in games. Literally, like every game has one now too! It's a matter of severity; just how much they expect you to grind for it. Combining fomo with it all too.. "Oh it's just cosmetics".. I LIKE cosmetics. -.-

Consumerism, not even once.

[TowaIsBestGirl]

God, DON'T get me started on them, AND the problem is, the community largely SUPPORTS them! Yeah, they can be great for driving players to a goal, and getting players back into games for each season, but they are inherently AWFUL. This is a trend I absolutely detest in games. Literally, like every game has one now too! It's a matter of severity; just how much they expect you to grind for it. Combining fomo with it all too.. "Oh it's just cosmetics".. I LIKE cosmetics. -.-

People will pay for cosmetics. They will gleefully pay dearly for cosmetics they are highly unlikely to ever obtain from that accursed gacha. FOMO is cancer, and I gladly condemn any who defend it for whichever crusade they woke up and chose to embark upon that day.

Well, given how even some of the most ardent naysayers around here who left for a bit still came back and are actively playing again, apparently the answer is "not yet."

Also, the "play other games" thing has been around for years (it's nothing new), and it simply points out how FFXIV allows you to do exactly that without feeling like you've fallen insurmountably behind. It's a game that actually values your time and basic healthy things like diversifying what you play for fun rather than no-lifing one game.

After his most recent break, as soon as he reappeared so did a whole giant group of you who all vanished around the same time. That's definitely not suspicious at all.

Have people just missed the fact that a free login campaign took place recently? I highly doubt those posters who apparently according to some hate this game are paying a dime at this point in time. Why would they, when Square is so willing to let them game and post for the low, low price of free?

[SturmChurro]

People will pay for cosmetics. They will gleefully pay dearly for cosmetics they are highly unlikely to ever obtain from that accursed gacha. FOMO is cancer, and I gladly condemn any who defend it for whichever crusade they woke up and chose to embark upon that day.

You are speaking to someone who is more than willing to pay for cosmetics. Battle passes are garbage, and in my praise of games like Genshin or Star Rail, I have not praised their gacha practices. I have praised the games itself and their updates. For that matter, those games are VERY playable absolutely free to play, but I digress. Paying for cosmetics is one thing, but a battle pass is something else entirely. I really can't believe why people will defend battle passes, and act like it's consumer friendly.