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  1. #11
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Also, oof, you can do better Hunky.
    I think he's feeling some stress, he used to be the only one causing mischief and now a large amount of people seem to be doing the same thing, taking his fun away from him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Mr. Happy made a similar video and I'll borrow a perfect quote of his to sum up Endwalker:

    "It feels like the game doesn't even want to give me the option to play it more actively."

    He goes to explain tomes aren't inherently bad... as an option but the only option.
    MrHappy said this??? That's incredibly surprising to me, I think that's actually the most scathing (as much as he can be that is) thing I've ever seen him say about the game.
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    It isn't the fact a single streamer is saying this people should be paying heed to. It's the fact this complaint is becoming increasingly common. Whether the people saying it be a minority or not, the fact it's being put to word with growing frequency, and by people from all different demographics within the game's playerbase, is an indicator that it should at least be given due consideration.

    Also bear in mind how much money this game has made streamers like MrHappy and Zepla. Them speaking out against it is not without risk, because there does exist a percentage of humanity which is petty enough to completely turn their backs on someone over something like that.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I'm sorry I don't need an "influencer" to support or form my own opinions.
    Lmao that's literally not the point. Video game content creators are a barometer of the mood of the playerbase. For any video game, the biggest content creators are usually about as lukewarm on any issue as possible. And they're increasingly negative now in EW, which says something about the mood of the playerbase when such a sentiment is acceptable and will not cause them to lose too many subscribers or viewers. Zepla and MrHappy are about as close to a "vanilla lukewarm" streamer as you can get.

    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    It isn't the fact a single streamer is saying this people should be paying heed to. It's the fact this complaint is becoming increasingly common. Whether the people saying it be a minority or not, the fact it's being put to word with growing frequency, and by people from all different demographics within the game's playerbase, is an indicator that it should at least be given due consideration.
    This. So much for """minority""" rofl

    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    No, at the end of the day they are still just the barometer of their own opinions.
    Copium, for the first time you're finally in the minority. Suck it!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    No, Zepla quotes Reddit/Twitter and frames it as her own opinion. If there was a overwhelming positive feedback for the relic on Reddit/Twitter she would praise it.
    Which is literally why her opinion is a good barometer because her opinion generally does not offend the majority of the playerbase. She's incredibly safe lol. That means that the relic being atrocious in EW is now the standard, "safe" opinion.
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    Last edited by hunkygladiator; 05-06-2023 at 02:22 AM.

  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by VentVanitas View Post
    MrHappy said this??? That's incredibly surprising to me, I think that's actually the most scathing (as much as he can be that is) thing I've ever seen him say about the game.
    Unless it's Blitzball.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunkygladiator View Post
    Lmao that's literally not the point. Video game content creators are a barometer of the mood of the playerbase. For any video game, the biggest content creators are usually about as lukewarm on any issue as possible. And they're increasingly negative now in EW.
    No, at the end of the day they are still just the barometer of their own opinions.

    Quote Originally Posted by hunkygladiator View Post
    I NEED A TIME OUT!!!!
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    In before the stupid argument, "ItS cAtCh Up GeAr".
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunkygladiator View Post
    Video game content creators are a barometer of the mood of the playerbasel
    Hmm, I'm not sure about that. You'd have to somehow prove that people that watch video game content creators are representative of the playerbase first. I don't watch FFXIV content creators at all (dungeon guides aside). I'm sure I'm not alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    No, at the end of the day they are still just the barometer of their own opinions.
    The game could have 1000 players and youd still be here crying how everyone not liking something about the game is just a minority and everything is fine.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunkygladiator View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gocvyuEUtK0

    Love it when people are finally waking up to Endwalker being a terrible expansion, and not just a terrible expansion but the continuation of a terrible design ethos in this game starting from Stormblood.

    Also, Bozja had a far better story than EW Relic lol, so it's not even decent as a "story-based" relic.
    Truth is the players are also disliking it. Here is an extrapolation from the Steam Player base.

    It is true that FFXIV has never been more popular than now, however, if we look at trends this particular expansion has a much more violent quit rate than any that comes before it. So while people heard good things about XIV and trying, they are not liking it at the same rate people have in previous expansions. In turn I feel previous expansions have done a much better job of retaining players.

    the lines represent the retention rate over a period of 12 months after an expansion releases.

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    Last edited by Ath192; 05-06-2023 at 02:28 AM.

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