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    Quote Originally Posted by hunkygladiator View Post
    That video is fake. What isn't fake however is the existence of rotation bots that can do entire rotations for you. There are a lot of fake videos of "cheats" or "bots" in raiding out there, though I'm seriously unsure what is the point of making those fake videos.
    TAS speedrunning is a thing (and bigger than some people realise). And even within that community, there is competition in 'who is first', and 'who is the fastest'. And this promotes fake videos, and thats most likely not even the main reason here. The reason they make such videos is because there are no consequences for doing so. Even if you get called out, the money from the video is already made.

    Technicaly this game can be easily TAS'd. All mechanics are static and screen readable (sure, memory reading can make things easier, but certain tas categories disallow this). But because of the competition, the code to do this is often kept private. And if the TAS-er has some dignity, he keeps it private to avoid cheaters obtaining these tools.

    Its only that FF isnt popular enough for this (if you make it for this game, why not just do that in wow? With private code detection isnt that easy to perform for devs anyway). Otherwise they would already have done that considering bot detection in this game is horrible enough.

    But why take such effort if a cheap video already generates the money?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UkcsAlias View Post
    TAS speedrunning is a thing (and bigger than some people realise). And even within that community, there is competition in 'who is first', and 'who is the fastest'. And this promotes fake videos, and thats most likely not even the main reason here. The reason they make such videos is because there are no consequences for doing so. Even if you get called out, the money from the video is already made.

    Technicaly this game can be easily TAS'd. All mechanics are static and screen readable (sure, memory reading can make things easier, but certain tas categories disallow this). But because of the competition, the code to do this is often kept private. And if the TAS-er has some dignity, he keeps it private to avoid cheaters obtaining these tools.

    Its only that FF isnt popular enough for this (if you make it for this game, why not just do that in wow? With private code detection isnt that easy to perform for devs anyway). Otherwise they would already have done that considering bot detection in this game is horrible enough.

    But why take such effort if a cheap video already generates the money?
    IDK, I just don't see how they're making the money. These videos get like 10k views on youtube which is like $1.
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