This game is on a terrible state right now.

[Saraide]

The most simple solution:
1. Get rid of third party players who clearly have an advantage over everyone else.
2. Make end game content Duty Finder friendly (for learning or clearing)
3. Get rid of end game content that seemingly "requires" (according to my previous posts) the use of third party tools

Get with the times, venue hoppers are the scapegoat now. Blaming evil raiders and their evil third party tools is so pre pandemic.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Get with the times, venue hoppers are the scapegoat now. Blaming evil raiders and their evil third party tools is so pre pandemic.

Its weird how people just need to paint a villian or pin the blame on something other than the actual game to make their points.

Have no clue why these people are now trying to shift the blame for the game's quality on the "venue" crowd. Theyre acting as if theyre the ones either in charge or the audience the dev team are trying to cater to which is just....laughable

[Saraide]

Its weird how people just need to paint a villian or pin the blame on something other than the actual game to make their points.

Have no clue why these people are now trying to shift the blame for the game's quality on the "venue" crowd. Theyre acting as if theyre the ones either in charge or the audience the dev team are trying to cater to which is just....laughable

We have some complainers acting like the forum white knights (which absolutely do exist) are the thing that's standing in the way of their genius level feedback reaching the devs. We have people acting like SE gets to be turbo lazy because they only care about what gives them money and bring less and less content because the venue crowd doesnt care about content anyway while also pointing at drastically falling player numbers since the endwalker launch. These two things contradict each other.

Somehow SE caters only to the enemy group which has to be both the minority and the majority for any of this to make sense.

[Deo14]

No, not really. At least, not in the context of what I saying. And you were VERY selective with what you quoted.

Granted FFXIV's content updates have slowed - but that seems to be due, at least in-part, to Devs working on FFXVI. And I think there have been at least two content drops in FFXIV in the time it took the game I used to play to produce a single, 45-minute long, episode.
Nor does FFXIV try to pass gambleboxes off as new content. In fact, the absence of gambleboxes is one of the elements of this game I love.

Furthermore, I can at least say that I know there is a new content drop coming later in the month, as SE advertises it well in advance. I also know that I won't be able to complete the sum total of that content drop in 45 minutes.

If FFXIV development truly slowed because of FFXVI, how's that fine in any shape or form? Is FFXIV second class citizen now? Are we finally going to get more attention now since 16's development is over, or will they again split resources to other games and leave us on the side of the road?

As for your example - is said game WoW/GW2/BDO or similar? Is it even MMORPG or are you comparing apples to trucks? If not, then it's irrelevant. If you really want to try to argue with individual examples, at least say what game it is, otherwise it just seems like you try to hide it, so the people who played that game cannot counter your argument.

As for your gamble boxes - you said it was f2p, so my question is, what do you expect? They give you 45 minutes of story twice a year for free and you complain? Here we pay 15$ a month, base game, cash shop bullshit, retainer subscription bullshit and app subscription bullshit. The fact that these things are optional is irrelevant, MTX in f2p is also technically optional. So after paying some 15$ bucks per month, we get 2 (two) hours of MSQ per 4.5 months and some content which dies in a 1 or 2 weeks. I don't know chief, your f2p game doesn't seem that bad after all.

[Ghost_of_Ebina]

This expansion has been really lackluster in terms of patches, there is literally nothing to do, and most of the stuff added is a joke.

I disagree with your opinion. Even in an MMO that has zero updates and with zero active players, there are "literally" a few things that can be done.
Your comment sounds extreme and melodramatic due to lack of any examples or data to back your opinion.

[Kaurhz]

Its weird how people just need to paint a villian or pin the blame on something other than the actual game to make their points.

Have no clue why these people are now trying to shift the blame for the game's quality on the "venue" crowd. Theyre acting as if theyre the ones either in charge or the audience the dev team are trying to cater to which is just....laughable

I just reason this down to people being upset that people are still having fun in the game, and coming up with all kinds of weird criticisms and passive-aggressive remarks towards said players/player groups. Honestly, if the petulancy behind this weren't as comedic as it were, then I'd almost be sad at the fact.

[Ransu]

Are you aware this description fits FF14 right now?

If he's talking about swtor its not even close. XIV's small story updates are longer than swtors "major" content updates.

XIV gets a lot of content. Ya'll just ignore it or no life it.

[Aword3213]

I just reason this down to people being upset that people are still having fun in the game, and coming up with all kinds of weird criticisms and passive-aggressive remarks towards said players/player groups.

Basically, fun police?

[Carin-Eri]

If he's talking about swtor its not even close. XIV's small story updates are longer than swtors "major" content updates.

XIV gets a lot of content. Ya'll just ignore it or no life it.

I have no interest in discussing the other game I was referring to, to be honest - for one, I really don't enjoy doing so and have no interest arguing my point about a game I now dislike on the forum of a game I enjoy.
And secondly, I can't see any reason to since it is, demonstrably, only acceptable to have a negative opinion of FFXIV in this forum in general and this thread in particular.

[Padudu]

Have no clue why these people are now trying to shift the blame for the game's quality on the "venue" crowd. Theyre acting as if theyre the ones either in charge or the audience the dev team are trying to cater to which is just....laughable

People just tend to blame the venue crowd no matter what lol, whether it be for third party programs, watering down content, dev catering, making things adult/mature, ect. Venues are just universally hated by everyone for whatever reason.