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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    You really dont like it when people disagree with you..do you?

    The Quote: Lastly, “touch grass” can be a retort or comeback on platforms like Twitter and Reddit. In a way, telling someone to touch grass can be an “ad hominem” argument — where you directly insult someone instead of responding to their points. Some people on the internet use the phrase to shut down further discussion or suggest that someone doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
    There was a time in which I would agree with that quote. However, on the occasions where I have attempted to engage in an honest discussion with you over our differences in opinions, your posts without fail instantly devolved into angry rants. And then you get offended that Aveyond won't give you the time of day and that I don't bother to answer you when you ask dumb questions. I wonder why we would do that. Some people just don't have points worth responding to in a courteous manner.

    So kindly, go touch some grass. Maybe it'll improve your overall mood, you can take a chill pill, and we can finally have that discussion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheriyana View Post
    You clearly don't have a clue about MMO or any multiplayer game development do you? It's sadly extremely common for devs to sabotage themselves. Look at what's been going on with WoW for like years at this point, the devs were being arrogant and thought they knew better than the community and it put the game in the gutter. MMOs thrive on community feedback if you don't keep evolving and producing content that people actually like, you'll end up in the dumpster like countless other MMOs, and for SE that would be devastating, considering how poorly they have been doing lately (Marvels Avengers, Babylon's Fall, Forspoken, selling most their Western studios and IP for monopoly money etc.).
    When WoW was starting to decline, it had a very similar group of white knights who would defend WoW and every choice the developers made. Others warned them, telling them that things needed to change for the better or the game would decline further. The white knights didn't listen. The devs proceeded to ignore negative community feedback, and lo and behold, the game declined. Do we want that for FFXIV? I don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    When WoW was starting to decline, it had a very similar group of white knights who would defend WoW and every choice the developers made. Others warned them, telling them that things needed to change for the better or the game would decline further. The white knights didn't listen. The devs proceeded to ignore negative community feedback, and lo and behold, the game declined. Do we want that for FFXIV? I don't.
    Exactly. These "shut up, everything's perfect" white knights do nothing but hurt the game. If you love something, you want it to be better, not stay the same or get worse. We all love the same game here, it's just that some of us want it to be better while some of you shout at us to be quiet and go play something else. Guess who's doing more harm to the game in the long run?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheriyana View Post
    Exactly. These "shut up, everything's perfect" white knights do nothing but hurt the game. If you love something, you want it to be better, not stay the same or get worse. We all love the same game here, it's just that some of us want it to be better while some of you shout at us to be quiet and go play something else. Guess who's doing more harm to the game in the long run?
    I think you are attributing those people far more influence than they actually have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    I think you are attributing those people far more influence than they actually have.
    Maybe so but it's not been one or two threads were people immediately jump to tell someone who criticizes the game to unsub and go play something else. Eventually people will start doing that if they feel they can't express their opinions without being yelled at that the game isn't for them. The community for this game is notoriously bad with the toxic positivity already.
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