The Last Resort for Housing and Hoarders

[Ayan_Calvesse]

Honestly?

I mean - I cannot see how you can enforce the "in use" aspect of it. For we already have a in-use demo timer of 45 days.
As for deco....so what qualifies as "decorated" can someone just drop couches and chairs and some random garbage? Or will shitty decor suddenly be grounds for removal of your home?

I see too many faults with the idea.

They need
1. To speed up the lotto process; a week to determine if you won is overkill as far as leniency.
2. Allow you to bid on more then 1 plot; this will allow people to go for a second place plot essentially allowing them to bid on a few potential plots.
3. Settle the question of the # of FC's a account can own on a world; then set in motion a means to correct that issue (No grandfathering) compensate those effected; if you MUST grandfather anything; I don't know - maybe allow them to keep all their subs in 1 FC at the end.
4. Enforce some kind of FC requirement; no more 1 person FCs.
5. Allow people to put in a "bid" on a plot; they pay money and if the plot EVER comes up on their world - the game automatically bids for them and they receive a ingame mail. If your not paying attention thats no SE's fault.
6. Stop making people do the walk of shame to determine they failed to win.

[Stormpeaks]

1. To speed up the lotto process; a week to determine if you won is overkill as far as leniency.

I already suggested that as well, the moment I did I literally got attacked by "yeah there's people that are working oversea" "yeah there's people that dont have the time to log in to bid" (but apparently they have time to have a house ?) and more and more excuses to not shorten the timer.

2. Allow you to bid on more then 1 plot; this will allow people to go for a second place plot essentially allowing them to bid on a few potential plots.

That would be a disaster tbh, people would just randomly bid to either annoy people, or just bid on multiple things to be sure they get something, then that's another cycle down the drain as one of the houses might not get claimed if the player won both

3. Settle the question of the # of FC's a account can own on a world; then set in motion a means to correct that issue (No grandfathering) compensate those effected; if you MUST grandfather anything; I don't know - maybe allow them to keep all their subs in 1 FC at the end.

There is no fixing it, they make bank on multiowners, compared to the tiny amount of people complaining about them, I dont think they care much, joke's on me, they dont care about housing at all, that Sargatanas house is good proof of that, it had absolute abuse of 3rd party tools all over the place, it's even to this day still in place and the plot below theirs is invading on their plot entirely, but SE never did anything, and it got reported A LOT, link for reference https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...n-t-Okay-Is-It

4. Enforce some kind of FC requirement; no more 1 person FCs.

No.

5. Allow people to put in a "bid" on a plot; they pay money and if the plot EVER comes up on their world - the game automatically bids for them and they receive a ingame mail. If your not paying attention thats no SE's fault.

No, because then what if the house next door is an absolute eyesore (gingerbread,paissa etc) and they dont want it ? the game will have automatically done a bid for them and yet they might not want it in that state

6. Stop making people do the walk of shame to determine they failed to win.

So much this, remove it, it's not fun for anybody to have to go up to the plot, see the new owner decorate it, and get up to the placard to collect your gil after having waited 5 days to lose yet another time, it has to stop honestly

[Khryseis_Astra]

They need
1. To speed up the lotto process; a week to determine if you won is overkill as far as leniency.

1. Agreed. As long as it’s not 7 for the entire cycle, it will still stagger. At this point, a 3 bid/2 claim would be fine. There’s so few plots in these lottos now that the wait is an unnecessary agony. If you can’t log in for 5 minutes to check a placard, you’re probably going to get auto-demoed for the same reason later on.

2. I could see this working… kinda like an instant run-off voting system. You bid for say, 3 plots, in order of preference. (They’d probably have to put a limit on it.) When the lotto results are set at reset, if you didn’t win your first choice, you’re rolled into your second, and so on. But I can’t imagine the programming nightmare that would be for it to perform all those calculations right at reset, or the potential for errors/bugs.

3-4. I’d always rather see things added than taken away. But I really think they need to adjust the ward restrictions again. For example, there’s 8 small plots in mixed/personal wards for LB right now on my server. Add in the FC only ones that are going on their 9th lotto with no bids, and that number goes up to 40! Obviously FCs don’t want them, and clearly they’re not desirable enough for anyone to even create a solo FC to get! But that’s exactly what will happen, given enough time. When the mixed wards dry out, probably after this round honestly, people will feel that’s the only way to get a house. The FC only wards just encourage the creation of solo FCs, which ironically takes away potential houses from the actual FCs they’re trying to support!

5. If this could be set to a preferred plot, I’d be game. I have a dream plot that I will always bid on if it’s available. But the others I bid on, I prefer to look and see if it’s worth settling for. lol

6. So much this… I mean, luckily people on my server seem to be nice and I’ve never encountered the whole gloating thing. But it’s still awkward AF and it’s depressing to see the place you had your heart set on all decorated up by someone else.

And of course, I have to point out, that most of this would be irrelevant if they would just add an instanced housing system to the existing wards! lol

[Yodada]

Of course Balmung, when it comes to the most stupid ideas its mostly assured it comes from Balmung.
Man we should automatically delete all new housing threads if the players comes from the self inflicted issue Balmung at this point

[Toutatis]

Not decorated doesn’t mean people don’t use them. To some they are utility only. Vendors, retainer bell, fc chest, aesthetician, workshops, garden, dummy.

[Pratini]

Do you really think Square Enix care?

[Battler-Ushiromiya]

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In conclusion, limited virtual houses in FF14 should be demolished if players are not decorating or using them.

I have two houses, cry about it lmao

[Themarvin]

Many house hoarde... one of my previous FC's I was in the leader was just keeping on making shell FCs to greedy having too many houses, it is not cool and itis something that SE should do something about.

Fine if you want multiple houses or too many FC's of your own... how about you pay for a subscription for each one of them then, leaving it to be a fair game for all to be.

[DeNada]

Perhaps a hard cap on the number of houses you can hold on a single account regardless of whether it's a personal or FC house would help with the hoarding which lead to less supply for people who are still looking to own their first home?

Right now, you can own up to 40 FC houses per region and 1 personal house per world on a single account which mean you can own up to 160 FC houses and 81 personal houses on a single account, which is certainly too much for one person as it would deprive other players a chance to get into housing if everyone hoards houses. By hard capping the maximum houses of account at perhaps 20 (this is an arbitrary number which came out of my ass and is certainly up for debate) at most, this would help alleviate the housing crunch on legacy servers until there's an expansion of housing wards or new housing districts.

[Jojoya]

Auto-demolition did solve a problem. Just not the problem the players wanted it to solve. It solved a problem for SE though: How do you keep players paying for a game they aren't playing?

9000 plots per server with ~70 servers is ~630,000 plots. Make some commodity rare and guarantee about $9.5M in monthly revenue, regardless of who is playing the game. That's $113M/year just so people can own digital real estate. Whoever thought of that idea at SE was probably promoted to director.

Could be argued they're losing money from the players who don't have a house so have no reason to stay subscribed other than one month out of four while those with houses only need to be subscribed 2 months out of 4. The argument really doesn't hold water unless the majority of those who want to take a break from the game and own a house are dumber than I think.

There is no fixing it, they make bank on multiowners, compared to the tiny amount of people complaining about them,[/url]

They would make more bank on multi-owners by limiting houses to one personal, one FC per world. That would force the multi-owners to have even more active service accounts to keep the same number of houses.

I know some would say per service account, not just per world, but that would upset the players who actively play characters on multiple worlds and would cause a major stink. The number of players with multiple houses on the same world is much smaller (though very vocal).

Perhaps a hard cap on the number of houses you can hold on a single account regardless of whether it's a personal or FC house would help with the hoarding which lead to less supply for people who are still looking to own their first home?

Right now, you can own up to 40 FC houses per region and 1 personal house per world on a single account which mean you can own up to 160 FC houses and 81 personal houses on a single account, which is certainly too much for one person as it would deprive other players a chance to get into housing if everyone hoards houses. By hard capping the maximum houses of account at perhaps 20 (this is an arbitrary number which came out of my ass and is certainly up for debate) at most, this would help alleviate the housing crunch on legacy servers until there's an expansion of housing wards or new housing districts.

Did you mean including with the current per world restrictions in place? That might work.


Without the per world restrictions, I think that would encourage a lot more multiple home ownership among those not currently doing it.