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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    The cookie wasn't tasty enough for most people, apparently. That's why people bitched endlessly about ARR, HW relic grind lmao. SE listened and that's why the EW relic grind isn't really that much of a grind so far, is it?

    Let's not pretend that making people grind endlessly for achievements, relics, or anything like that is oodles amount of content, or is what people really want to do. People bitched endlessly about BLU going nowhere too, and that's a grind to a dead end wall.
    That's attributed to several reasons, be it the method of obtaining them. People have endlessly complained of the method and the choice or lack thereof, and their response was to just tie it to tomestones, giving people the greatest degree of flexibility possible. Even relics back in the day of ShB for step-2 were churnable within a couple of hours if you so wished, and similarly could do many stages concurrently. I'd argue the grind was just as easy back then, frankly.

    Good then you're of a fairly cohesive argument and we can quite as happily conclude that the product has always practically been in this state. It's absolutely nothing new in this regard, as much as people would like to parade otherwise.

    Dungeons were always corridor simulators with very very little in the way of threatening design.
    Relics were always garbage that recycled older content and gave a false illusion of bountiful content, under the guise that the cookie for once was tasty enough for you.
    The content was a once-in-once-out-esque piecemeal. People were hardly on the edge of their seats getting excited over Doman Reconstruction aka the weekly piecemeal. Just as people weren't lining up in droves to experience the umpteenth failure of exploratory Diadem.

    My point is, and as I have said at an earlier point in time, absolutely nothing is new with this respect and people are just looking at their older experiences with rose-tinted glasses, and could hardly see the fact that if they were to release an expansion the exact same as HW or SB right now, then absolutely nothing would change, if you were starved with EW, you'd be just as starved had they released any other expansion at this point in time. Well, minus the fact we'd be complaining about Pagos and/or poetics.

    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    I enjoy the memes I make, it's another goal I have. I have an imaginary quota too.

    Gotta keep goal driven, or you go crazy in this world you know?





    Basically how the game has always been then. Farming 5000 Fieldcraft leves is no different whatsoever from farming 200 FATEs for an Atma or for your little luminous crystals. That's my point, and somehow people bent over the illusion that the latter consists of more content than the former is bizarre or is more content than the other for that matter.

    My point also stands that some people just have a knack for those things and enjoy it, and that some people apparently feel personally attacked by this idea, e.g., yourself. At any rate have a good day talking to a brick wall /shrug.
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