Do babies play this game.

[Jeeqbit]

Technically Minfilia died in Shadowbringers, but she had been out of the story for years before that happened so it was as if she had died earlier.

Technically Hydaelyn did too, but they had been quiet and barely in the story for years as well.

We could argue that no scion or traveling companion we knew long-term ever died except Minfilia and Hydaelyn though. Louisoix was just a grandad NPC you talked to in 1.0, the scions that got shot by livia were extras, Moenbryda was there for a patch or two then died, Haurchefant and Lady Iceheart were there for some patches and some of Heavensward then died, Papalymo barely had character development like every other character got in Heavensward and was absent except in ARR anyway, every villain after that also died in their respective expansions (other than Zenos who got to do that twice).

Death isn't the end all or be all of stories though. I feel that there should be other ways for them to exit the story as well, such as retirement (like Gosetsu) or injury like Arenvald. It should really just make sense.

They didn't die in Ultima Thule because that wasn't the point of the story. They wanted us to worry they might be dying to make us feel despair and depressed at the idea they might die. They hinted at a light at the end of the tunnel half way through when Y'shtola said they could be resurrected with the crystal, because you had progressed quite far and were starting to see hope of getting through this place. They finally resurrected them all at the end to make you feel the hope that they now wanted you to feel in this land of despair. They used them as a way to manipulate your emotions to align with how your character was meant to be feeling in a land of despair, but of course it will affect people differently depending on their level of attachment to them.

But I don't think they need to die now, either. They could just retire some of them or make us part ways with them as we get sucked into another shard without them.

[DiaDeem]

Don't forget a literal child succumbing to existential dread and deciding that the best course of action is to erase all of existence.

Ya know, FOR KIDS

[Hazama999]

According to that pregnancy thread... no.

[DiaDeem]

Actually...



Dark enough for you OP???

/thread

[Renalt]

Bumping yet another epic hunkygladiator thread.

By the way, does anyone still believe FFXIV to have a 9/10 JRPG story after the dust has settled? The cheap tearjerker-bait cutscenes must’ve worn off by now, haven’t they? Considering we’ve been given multiple GOTYs since then. Sure it was a novelty to see an MMO pretend to be a JRPG for a hot minute, but is it really comparable to the rest of the lot?

For a JRPG...nah it is par for the course.

For an MMO. Yeah. It's very impressive. The only game that beats out FFXIV story is The Old Republic.

[Kes13a]

not sure about babies playing, but they sure have been posting a lot lately.

[Kaurhz]

Given the mundane things on some peoples' minds, yes, babies do.

[Renalt]

not sure about babies playing, but they sure have been posting a lot lately.

I know I get cranky if I don't get fed. So...uh...

[hunkygladiator]

IV and VI have some of the darkest stories you'll ever find in the series. Aerith's death is one thing, but Kefka wins in VI. Then our group of friends that were travel companions rise to the occasion and topple him down. Final Fantasy is about hope and companions/friends. Character death is a very cheap story device that can give the illusion of seriousness and depth, but it means nothing if done poorly. We knew Tesleen for an hour, yet her death is one of the most impactful in Shadowbringers. And then very people cared for Lunafreya in XV. Character death for the sake of death means nothing. Also, If you're expecting a Final Fantasy story to be the an ocean of depression like say.. the FromSoft games, you're looking into the wrong franchise. We're here to fight for hope.


And kill Chaos.

There's a huge middle ground between "an ocean of depression" and slice of life fan-service storylines. FF14 is no longer a game about fighting for hope (and most FF's aren't about that either unless literally any positive emotion is "hope" to you), it's a game that delivers hope again and again with zero stakes to any of the valleys because you just know the Scions will just survive everything anyways. At that point it's not hope anymore because why would you need to hope for anything if you know it's going to be happily ever after at the end?

Actually...



Dark enough for you OP???

/thread

Yes that was the best part of EW and then it just fell off from there once Alphinaud solves centuries of strife, resentment, and brainwashing in a few days with the power of being nice.

[hunkygladiator]

nightmare fuel imagery (Tesleen's transformation, Tam-Tara Hard questline, Meteion reacting to the info from her sisters) and it wouldn't matter.

You are actually a baby if that's nightmare fuel LMAO

Go play Silent Hill some time.