Some MMO we have

[Bad_Luck]

And yet last night I was insta-queuing as DPS at 3 am. Limsa packed, GS packed, Radz packed. Doesn't seem all that dead to me. Isn't anecdotal evidence fun? Maybe it feels dead to you because nobody likes you.

[Bad_Luck]

Yes, but this is me recommending Yoshi P adding longer lasting content to the game. There could even be revenue in it. Subs are good for business generally.

Oh, so you literally did everything in the game? Wow. Quite an achievement.

[Bad_Luck]

The picture I was asked to post? The picture is just a fact. I mean I didn't manipulate it, Someone assumed it was done at 3 AM or something, asked me to post it, so I did.

As far as the game having no long lasting new content, you could call it a narrative... I view it more as a truth. We could go down a huge legalistic whole about what is long lasting content and what isn't. But I don't feel like it TBH.

It was a fine cherry pick to be sure.

[Bad_Luck]

Yet we're still here, paying subs.

The activity in this very thread disproves OP's thesis.

[Toutatis]

And yet last night I was insta-queuing as DPS at 3 am. Limsa packed, GS packed, Radz packed. Doesn't seem all that dead to me. Isn't anecdotal evidence fun? Maybe it feels dead to you because nobody likes you.

Totally. The thing is that OP’s picture was taken idk when. Also, who uses PF for a regular dungeon? Normally people us DF for that, not PF.

The fact is that the Primal DC has pretty fast queue times in general when you use DF and Bozja and Eureka are alive too. When I queue for ARs I get a high proportion of Nier and Orbonne raids too. Just went through an entire MSQ and raid unlocks on an alt and even on a dps I rarely waited for more than 10 minutes (of course, I didn’t try to unlock Orbonne raids at 3 am either).

PF has a limited interest/usefulness outside some specific content and even then it can be situational, like hunts for example: it usually is a matter of minutes when train forms (about 3 times/day) or when a boss is announced.

[Ransu]

.... Who on earth is using party finder to get through Haukke Manor normal? XD That isn't a thing. There's no way.

Seriously. No one is pointing out that OP's screenshot is tabbed to a section of PF that literally no one uses PF for. Whoever made that PF could easily get a Haukke Manor pop in like 5-10 minutes in DF lol.

[LianaThorne]

Totally. The thing is that OP’s picture was taken idk when. Also, who uses PF for a regular dungeon? The fact is that the Primal DC has pretty fast queue times in general when you use DF, Bozja and Eureka are alive too. When I queue for ARs I get a high proportion of Nier and Orbonne raids too. Take tabs like hunts: they are used regularly but it usually is a matter of a few minutes when train forms (about 3 times/day) or when a boss is announced.

Not to split hairs but I see/have seen people posting first time clears on PF for dungeons & trials in most if not all the original 3 NA DCs to attract help via the new person bonus you can get. I also see it on Dynamis as well but that should probably be obvious as to why.

[Aword3213]

Seriously. No one is pointing out that OP's screenshot is tabbed to a section of PF that literally no one uses PF for. Whoever made that PF could easily get a Haukke Manor pop in like 5-10 minutes in DF lol.

I noticed that. I think OP is doing social experiment just to see how stupid could people be to actually defend that screenshot

[R041]

Oh, so you literally did everything in the game? Wow. Quite an achievement.

So much to do!



Such great content like..



OH AND

[DiaDeem]

What I actually don't get is the venue hate. Every MMO ever made tends to become a bit of a social hub with time. The way XIV does housing lends itself to people opening places for those that want to come hang out. It's just the nature of an MMO. I get what you're saying with the other tabs, but where a venue can happen any day at any time, battle content depends on a lot of varying factors such as time of day, DC, time of week (reclears) and a lot of content gets match made via Duty Finder rather than PF. Some people also legit dislike using PF to do EX/SVG and prefer to do premades, even just casually. It varies.

I guess some may call me a shill, and go ahead if that's what floats your boat. I just don't like using single graphs/images to make absolute statements about the game's health. I think the best opinions are built upon different sources of data, doing some analysis, and considering as many variables as possible, though you're free to post whatever you feel like, of course. Maybe you just have a hate boner or something? I don't know, I may be wrong and I do apologize if I got the wrong idea, but it comes across a bit like that. And with how much people antagonize each other (for seemingly no reason) I usually find posts like this to be rather... "dull" I think it's the word I'm looking for? A single image doesn't tell the whole story of any game, and any meaningful conversation gets lost in the middle of often times simplistic absolute statements.

*Edit: I miss HM Dungeons, honestly. They were perfect as Midcore content, and allowed for new stories to be told in remixed dungeons that we got to explore with some unique mechanics here and there. I wish these made a comeback.