We lost 70% of our player base half a year in

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I'll be nice and actually respond to you, even though it makes absolutely no sense to even try as you are dedicated to defending a multi billion company like its your mission

Im not defending a Company. Im talking about a videogame, Learn to separate the 2.
And we are talking about in-game experience VS a Steamchart. Pay attention to the argument / Conversation.

Yes, I'm sure SE prefers for its players to have a great amazing experience, than to get money, they prefer customer satisfaction than money, that totally makes sense right ? Why would a company want money ?

I am actually confused what you point is here....Customer satisfaction = Money.
So by this....argument?...they are succeeding on both ends for a good number of people.

I mean, yes it is because there is nothing else to do, not sure if you were looking for a "gotcha" moment, but it didnt work.

I wasnt trying to do a "gotcha" moment.
The point is people can still play and enjoy the game with pretty low Queue times, depending on some content.
And, its a flat lie to say there is nothing to do in the game. Im sure YOU must be bored out of your mind, but there are still plenty of things to do in this game. Ive been here since Heavensward, Id say 1 year after it released, and there I STILL plenty of things for me to do. PLENTY of content I havent touched.
I hate that you cant be honest and just say: "There is no content I WANT to do" instead of the disingenuous lie that "There is NOTHING To do"

Proven wrong by charts.
Yes they do, as much as you hate it.

Copium
Because you dont have ALL of the information, so you ignore it, and replace it with the only information you have, and tell yourself its gospel.

[Stormpeaks]

Im not defending a Company. Im talking about a videogame, Learn to separate the 2.
And we are talking about in-game experience VS a Steamchart. Pay attention to the argument / Conversation.



I am actually confused what you point is here....Customer satisfaction = Money.
So by this....argument?...they are succeeding on both ends for a good number of people.



I wasnt trying to do a "gotcha" moment.
The point is people can still play and enjoy the game with pretty low Queue times, depending on some content.
And, its a flat lie to say there is nothing to do in the game. Im sure YOU must be bored out of your mind, but there are still plenty of things to do in this game. Ive been here since Heavensward, Id say 1 year after it released, and there I STILL plenty of things for me to do. PLENTY of content I havent touched.
I hate that you cant be honest and just say: "There is no content I WANT to do" instead of the disingenuous lie that "There is NOTHING To do"



Copium
Because you dont have ALL of the information, so you ignore it, and replace it with the only information you have, and tell yourself its gospel.

Not wasting anymore posts for you, this is the last.

Steamcharts matter, period.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Not wasting anymore posts for you, this is the last.

Steamcharts matter, period.

Last Post to you.

Copium

[galbsadi]

People have been saying make healers more engaging since Shadowbringers, and it’s been ignored.

People have been saying endgame is horrible with lack of content and it’s been ignored.

People want better hairstyles and headgears on the new races and it's been ignored.

After an ENTIRE year of receiving player feedback and FAILING to do what the community wants, now we have them scrambling to fix critical bugs after bugs like the housing lottery bug.

What a joke.

I wanted FF14 to thrive, I loved Stormblood but the game is dying and on it’s way out.

Square Enix, changes need to be made FAST.

NOT in 7.0, NOT in 8.0, it needs to happen THIS EXPANSION or you WILL lose the remaining player base.

So what you're saying is...towards the end of a catchup patch FFXIV is roughly where they were towards the end of a catchup patch in November 2021.

[Alleluia]

Square Enix, changes need to be made FAST.

NOT in 7.0, NOT in 8.0, it needs to happen THIS EXPANSION or you WILL lose the remaining player base.

But... but 7.0 IS this expansion? I--I feel brain cells dying.

[R041]

But... but 7.0 IS this expansion? I--I feel brain cells dying.

Sounds like they're already dead. lol

I blame the hallway dungeons, they'll probably be the same in 7.0 and 8.0, so yeah it feels like we're already playing 8.0 when nothing ever changes. Every time I do a dungeon as DPS I lose a few brain cells.

[EgilTheStressedMage]

Sounds like they're already dead. lol

I blame the hallway dungeons, they'll probably be the same in 7.0 and 8.0, so yeah it feels like we're already playing 8.0 when nothing ever changes. Every time I do a dungeon as DPS I lose a few brain cells.

I was on an alt and asked if I get the map filled out in Sastasha. I had to do it on my own after we cleared because no one answered.

[DiaDeem]

I was on an alt and asked if I get the map filled out in Sastasha. I had to do it on my own after we cleared because no one answered.

If I see the "New Player In this Duty" for Sastasha, I just take people around. And I always try to open the door in Quarn. "Burn the Fruit" is how I always remember the combination.

[R041]

I was on an alt and asked if I get the map filled out in Sastasha. I had to do it on my own after we cleared because no one answered.

I just don't agree with these excuses, it's defending lazy AAA development. Your need to get every little section of the map, and read every note of an old dungeon does not make a good argument for the idea that all dungeons should be linear and boring. The fact that you even wanted to do that, tells me you're likely in favor of non-linear exploration or you're just a completionist. You had a lil booboo experience where they wouldn't stop for you to read some of the notes, so instead you wish it all dead.

As soon as devs decide "Players will ignore it anyway, they'll optimize the fun out of it" means they've lost all hope and should no longer be making worlds or an RPG. It doesn't mean the devs themselves should optimize the fun out of it for those of us that DO want to have an actual adventure and figure things out. Even Variant was a fake version of exploration, still the same system of hallway gated mobs, hallway gated mobs, boss, repeat. It's all the same, and they never force you to think about how you react to the mobs in the first place.

Part of the problem is that no matter what class comp you have in XIV, it would all be the same path anyway, so really we're just doomed from the start because all of the classes are exactly the same with no unique properties to separate themselves in unique mob/boss scenarios.

Like what else is on the optimization list for Yoshi at this point? How can we boil it all down even further?

Yoshi has shown that it's now more important to create developer efficiency and consistency, even if mediocre.. Over providing a fun and unique experience for the players themselves.

Why do we even have dungeons anymore, just throw me in a small room that spawns 6 mobs at a time and I'll spam AoE on them for hours. It's the same exact experience, nothing activates in my brain from doing these dungeons and I actually refuse to do them after MSQ now.

Jfc, at least other MMOs somewhat respect the player's intelligence and want to adventure these days.

[DPZ2]

No one in this entire thread proved that Steam players are sufficiently different from regular FF14 players such that the subsample is imbalanced enough that any inference on the global attrition rate is off significantly.

My own posts here do not care if Steam players are sufficiently different. The numbers just do not say what you're attempting to force them to say. There was no "70% drop" in players on Steam.

Gods, what calculus book did you get that gibberish about functions from? Perhaps you asked chatGPT? It reads nicely, but as far as your use of Steam data for your original post, it is nothing but gibberish.