About.... Umbrella Mounts

[Moonlite]

Honest question for the SE defenders. IF SE can find people separate from the dev team to create cash shop items on such a regular basis, why can't they find people to make more items for the game? We have lots of systems in the game this could be added to. Mogtomes, Beast dailies, old Fates, new achievements, Eureka, Bozja, PvP, Golden saucer, Chocobo racing, TT card tournaments, Verminnion tounraments, hell just basic login points.



I am not saying close the cash shop. It is just this separate entity seems to be able to pump out items pretty well.

[SannaR]

Honest question for the SE defenders. IF SE can find people separate from the dev team to create cash shop items on such a regular basis, why can't they find people to make more items for the game? We have lots of systems in the game this could be added to. Mogtomes, Beast dailies, old Fates, new achievements, Eureka, Bozja, PvP, Golden saucer, Chocobo racing, TT card tournaments, Verminnion tounraments, hell just basic login points.



I am not saying close the cash shop. It is just this separate entity seems to be able to pump out items pretty well.

Most would love for things like these to be added for free in the game. However these two items were not made in house as anything that is originally made for the Chinese and Korean versions of the game aren't made in house. Even the ones that don't start there aren't made by those that make assets for things that get put into the game to be attached to something like V&C. These along with the Balloons and a lot of various clothing that gets put into the shop are being imported in a sense.

I don't know or remember the details about how the deal with that stuff is as it's been many a year since we got told how it works. So, the main thing is they're probably not put into our version of the game for free cause of them starting out as a paid item. Now there are things that start on our side that probably should have been placed into the game for free like the Cruise Chaser mount. It should have either needed some bolts from Soul of the Creator part of Alexander, as something you got from Rival Wings achievements, or bought with Crystal Trophy/Wolf Marks.

Another example of why are these in the Cash Shop and not shoved directly into the game.are the maid and butler outfits as those were like Pizza emote, and the Butterfingers collaboration. Where each region had to buy something to get a code to then get said item. I still feel bad for the EU as twice they were made to buy magazines and magazine subscriptions. While also being left out on a more recent one. Then there's a fact that OSE tends to be SoL on most of this stuff.

[Jojoya]

Honest question for the SE defenders. IF SE can find people separate from the dev team to create cash shop items on such a regular basis, why can't they find people to make more items for the game? We have lots of systems in the game this could be added to. Mogtomes, Beast dailies, old Fates, new achievements, Eureka, Bozja, PvP, Golden saucer, Chocobo racing, TT card tournaments, Verminnion tounraments, hell just basic login points.



I am not saying close the cash shop. It is just this separate entity seems to be able to pump out items pretty well.

The number of items unique to the cash shop is small compared to the number of items added to the game and rewarded through game play.

They just stand out in your mind more because you have to go through the cash shop to get them.

List everything that's been added to the cash shop since start of Endwalker other than the seasonal event items that were in-game rewards in the first place. Then list all the rewards unique to Island Sanctuary that we can earn.

I bet the numbers aren't too different yet what we get from Island Sanctuary is just a small portion of the overall in-game rewards that have been added. And a lot of those cash shop items are going to be sharing models with items already in the game as well. Having the models already created cuts down the work that has to be done for the cash shop items considerably.

[Stormpeaks]

The number of items unique to the cash shop is small compared to the number of items added to the game and rewarded through game play.

They just stand out in your mind more because you have to go through the cash shop to get them.

List everything that's been added to the cash shop since start of Endwalker other than the seasonal event items that were in-game rewards in the first place. Then list all the rewards unique to Island Sanctuary that we can earn.

I bet the numbers aren't too different yet what we get from Island Sanctuary is just a small portion of the overall in-game rewards that have been added. And a lot of those cash shop items are going to be sharing models with items already in the game as well. Having the models already created cuts down the work that has to be done for the cash shop items considerably.

Are you serious LMAO, there's barely any item from the island sanctuary glam wise, are we really going to compare this to the giant amount of stuff from the mog station ? also the difference in quality ? Also what you say about the mog shop stuff having the same looks that are already in the game/sharing models is absolutely false

just stop trying to defend them, you're making yourself look like a fool, please

[Jojoya]

Are you serious LMAO, there's barely any item from the island sanctuary glam wise, are we really going to compare this to the giant amount of stuff from the mog station ? also the difference in quality ? Also what you say about the mog shop stuff having the same looks that are already in the game/sharing models is absolutely false

just stop trying to defend them, you're making yourself look like a fool, please

I know your main entertainment is to rage about how terrible SE is but please stop and be objective for once. Pull out some actual facts to compare.

We've gotten 4 glamour sets out of Island Sanctuary so far. Two were "Visions" rewards, two are sold by the cowrie vendor (one set with multiple leg choices, the other set with multiple body and leg choices). Those sets are unique to Island Sanctuary.

What glamours added to the online store are unique to the cash shop without being cosplay (which have been all-in-ones that players complain about) or KR/CN imports?

Island Sanctuary has given us 5 mounts. Online store has added 6 so far this expansion (at least 2 of them KR/CN imports).

More from Island Sanctuary - 2 minions, 2 Fashion Accessories, 2, hair styles, 2 Orchestrion rolls, a barding, TT card, 2 framer's kits and 7 housing furnishings.

Excluding seasonal event items that had been originally available as rewards in game, the online store has added 3 new emotes, 8 Orchestrion rolls, 1 housing furnishing.

So where is this overwhelming amount of items being added to the online store compared to what is being added as game play rewards? I only listed Island Sanctuary. Do I need to also start listing Dungeon rewards, trials rewards, raid rewards, treasure map rewards, FATE rewards, PvP rewards, Gold Saucer rewards, etc.?

If it weren't for the KR/CN glamour imports, cosplay sets that players can only seem to complain about, and the Orchestrion rolls of the orchestral arrangements of some of the game's BGM, the online store would be looking pretty sad. You'd have Fantasia, job boosts and story skips, dyes and old seasonal event items. There's not one heck of a lot there that is truly unique to the FFXIV online store.

[Stormpeaks]

My main entertainment is housing and reading the forums, reading the excuses that yall find to excuse absolute mediocrity.

We've gotten 4 glamour sets out of Island Sanctuary so far. Two were "Visions" rewards, two are sold by the cowrie vendor (one set with multiple leg choices, the other set with multiple body and leg choices). Those sets are unique to Island Sanctuary.

2 of those glams from sanctuary are decent, 1 is absolutely mediocre. Meanwhile the mog shop ones are amazing and as per usual of higher quality and better looking.

Island Sanctuary has given us 5 mounts. Online store has added 6 so far this expansion (at least 2 of them KR/CN imports).

The only decent mount from IS is the bike, the rest is terrible, meanwhile amazing mounts got added to the store.

More from Island Sanctuary - 2 minions, 2 Fashion Accessories, 2, hair styles, 2 Orchestrion rolls, a barding, TT card, 2 framer's kits and 7 housing furnishings.

Okay ? Sure, most of these dont even matter, namely the orchestrion rolls, the barding, the card and the framer kits.

Excluding seasonal event items that had been originally available as rewards in game, the online store has added 3 new emotes, 8 Orchestrion rolls, 1 housing furnishing.

And has added multiple amazing glams.

So where is this overwhelming amount of items being added to the online store compared to what is being added as game play rewards? I only listed Island Sanctuary. Do I need to also start listing Dungeon rewards, trials rewards, raid rewards, treasure map rewards, FATE rewards, PvP rewards, Gold Saucer rewards, etc.?

I never said the game has no sort of rewards, I said that the superior rewards are on the mog shop, which is true. The higher quality is on the shop.

[VeyaAkemi]

The only decent mount from IS is the bike, the rest is terrible, meanwhile amazing mounts got added to the store.

How dare you talk down to my alligator boi, Flat Fuck Friday is special with him now.



That said yes, the Harley is amazing as a mount.

[Jojoya]

I never said the game has no sort of rewards, I said that the superior rewards are on the mog shop, which is true. The higher quality is on the shop.

How ironic that your avatar's glamour is 2 crafted glamour pieces, 2 Island Sanctuary glamour pieces and just one online store item (the hands of all things).

[Stormpeaks]

How ironic that your avatar's glamour is 2 crafted glamour pieces, 2 Island Sanctuary glamour pieces and just one online store item (the hands of all things).

Yes because I totally only have one glam

[SaltyDaddy]

The number of items unique to the cash shop is small compared to the number of items added to the game and rewarded through game play.

They just stand out in your mind more because you have to go through the cash shop to get them.

List everything that's been added to the cash shop since start of Endwalker other than the seasonal event items that were in-game rewards in the first place. Then list all the rewards unique to Island Sanctuary that we can earn.

I bet the numbers aren't too different yet what we get from Island Sanctuary is just a small portion of the overall in-game rewards that have been added. And a lot of those cash shop items are going to be sharing models with items already in the game as well. Having the models already created cuts down the work that has to be done for the cash shop items considerably.

That is true. And we cant argue with that. IS rewards are really cool. Still. One W doesnt save the rest of L's. People are just frustrated with current state of the game, so they see pretty expensive digital items, that they even sell recolors, as Blizzard-like move. We can say, its still better deal for the price as its account-wide, compared to 1 character glamours for the same price, butcash shops in subscription games is always a grey zone that you need to balance with more cool ingame stuff. And only cool gear so far I see is savage and IS gear. The rest is kinda mid and 2 dungeons are not dyeable. But the cadency of adding new things to cash shop is kinda scary.