We lost 70% of our player base half a year in

[R041]

On a personal note, I think the player count look pretty good here if we're being honest.
There's been a clear upwards trend since Shadowbringers release, and it looks like we've actually managed to retain quite a significant amount of the new players that have joined since then due to EW release and pandemic factors, given that those things do tend to have quite a significant drop off in returning players after the "trend" has died down.

I mostly agree with you - The main problem is we're stretched so thin right now that DC Travel is necessary to even play. I don't agree with how SE has handled server and housing expansion, they're playing the long game and looking at numbers, but it seems like they don't really understand what that feels like for a player who doesn't have a Home World on a popular DC. It's just an overall terrible experience for a lot of players.

Not much can be done there, they waited too long for QoL changes and then decided to give that DC even more housing. I just wish they would've put more effort into infrastructure, seamless instancing, and better housing a long time ago, it feels so archaic now and nothing ever happens. Stretching players across 300 hours of MSQ and requiring a you to do all dungeons and trials also doesn't help, if we keep this up it'll only get worse and it'll be necessary to run content with NPCs. We're expecting Roulette and Duty Support to carry the whole game at this point.

[Vrankyl]

Since all of NA congregates on aether, dc travel only strengthens this point.

As someone who plays on Crystal and doesn't dc travel at all, I have no issues with queues at all. Even for old content. I can easily direct queue for things like Omega and the Ivalice raids without much problem with a max of 10 minute wait times unless I am tanking, which queuing for as a tank on a 24 man is painful no matter what.

I would also like to point out that people are calculating percentages all wrong. Percentages are not an aggregate type of data. You can't just take that -7% and that -13% and get -20%. That's not how percentages work. That 7% could be a larger number overall than the 13% dependent upon the starting number of the drop off. A proper calculation of a new percentage would be to take say the total number of people. Let's take a look at that overall reduction since January. Jan 2023 saw an average of 27,140.2 players and in the last 30 days had an average of 20,695.4 players on Steam. That is a total loss percentage of approximately 23.75% players since Jan. Where as what people are doing and just adding the percentages would get you approximately 25.69%. It's not a big difference, but the longer period of the numbers the bigger difference. Especially once you start adding in rises as well as falls. So if we were to go based off of the OPs assumption they are a bit off. As of the latest link they provided we had a total loss percentage of approx 61.483% since Dec 2021 of STEAM players only where as when they first posted their Steam numbers it was a total loss percentage of approx. 53.05% of Steam players.

As you can see percentages can change greatly dependent upon the numbers. So could this be indicative of a trend? Possibly, but as someone pointed out that even at peak numbers the Steam player base doesn't even equal the max capacity of a single datacenter. Meaning they are very likely a minority compared to the overall numbers, which could massively skew the numbers.

[R041]

As you can see percentages can change greatly dependent upon the numbers. So could this be indicative of a trend? Possibly, but as someone pointed out that even at peak numbers the Steam player base doesn't even equal the max capacity of a single datacenter. Meaning they are very likely a minority compared to the overall numbers, which could massively skew the numbers.

You right, you right, I doubt bots use the Steam Version.


jkjk, but really.. >_>

[Vrankyl]

You right, you right, I doubt bots use the Steam Version.


jkjk, but really.. >_>

I mean... you're not wrong. That said, it would also be good to point out that the overwhelming majority of the JPN player base doesn't even play on PC due to the gaming culture there.

[raelgun]

I mean... you're not wrong. That said, it would also be good to point out that the overwhelming majority of the JPN player base doesn't even play on PC due to the gaming culture there.

Ok, this bit is wrong.

Yoshida has actually stated that even in JP, more people play on PC then consoles, they are just more controller users on PC over there.

You may not think it, but JP players want to communicate with each other more easily this includes voice chat.

[PredatoryCatgirl]

Why are we continuing to entertain the mad ranting of someone who is either trolling or doesn't understand basic math?

[Szylver]

if i remember correctly when SB come out, there was a huge server transfer or something like that and a lot of people like me couldn't play the game for months and ended up quitting the game till ShB.

[Renalt]

Nah we didn't lose 70%. They just aren't actively playing cause they watch my stream as I cosplay as my character and do those Mukbang videos.

Tonight it will be me eating 600 Cheesesticks. It'll start at 5PM Mountain time and will end when I die of a heart attack. So probably...30 minutes?

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Nah we didn't lose 70%. They just aren't actively playing cause they watch my stream as I cosplay as my character and do those Mukbang videos.

Tonight it will be me eating 600 Cheesesticks. It'll start at 5PM Mountain time and will end when I die of a heart attack. So probably...30 minutes?

Are they Home-Made, or we going to pizzahut or Arby's or something?

[ronibosch]

Nah we didn't lose 70%. They just aren't actively playing cause they watch my stream as I cosplay as my character and do those Mukbang videos.

Tonight it will be me eating 600 Cheesesticks. It'll start at 5PM Mountain time and will end when I die of a heart attack. So probably...30 minutes?

Damn, I might get in on that. Death by cheesesticks sounds really good right now.

Hold on, let me get my bunny ears.