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    Worse is, the Victory was already an integral part of the Limsa Lominsa starting quests, as part of the sahagin and Reavers' (and Black Masked Ascian's) plot to destabilise the region and kidnap thralls for Leviathan, as well as the side quests for the area. It did get used. It's might not be "just" a ship, but it already served it's purpose, plotwise.

    It, like anything else in ARR areas, is now in the time bubble of "well, previous expansion areas can't get updated geometry" so even if they ever finished it in-universe, the thing is stuck there forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero-ELEC View Post
    Worse is, the Victory was already an integral part of the Limsa Lominsa starting quests, as part of the sahagin and Reavers' (and Black Masked Ascian's) plot to destabilise the region and kidnap thralls for Leviathan, as well as the side quests for the area. It did get used. It's might not be "just" a ship, but it already served it's purpose, plotwise.
    Yeah, this is the sort of thing that occurs to me with this sort of speculation; I didn't start in Limsa so I didn't know this stuff exactly, but a lot of these things have self-contained reasons why they're presented the way they are. If someone keeps insisting everything must be secretly planned as a plot hook for the future, they devalue the thing it actually is. The ship in the Drydocks is both a notable part of quests, and also an important way to communicate the actual purpose of the Moraby Drydocks, since... again, it's a dry dock, that's what they're for. An empty dry dock wouldn't communicate nearly as much to you, especially since dry docks aren't the most immediately identifiable thing to your average person.

    Before jumping to the assumption of 'we see the entire planet from the moon, this must be a hint towards the next expansion', it's better to first consider that maybe the reason we can see the whole planet from the moon because of course you'd see the whole planet from the moon, that's the main aesthetic appeal of going to the moon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    Fay pulling up that ship as some sort of huge plot hook is kind of a great example of how they're the sort of person who thinks every single thing MUST be some future clue, that nothing is allowed to just be a thing that's there because it's cool or makes sense. You know why there's an under-construction boat at the Moraby Drydocks? Because it's a dry dock and that's what dry docks are for! You know what happens when they finish building that boat, which probably isn't special? They build another one, and that one's probably not special either.
    I'm not arguing a drydock can't just be a drydock, but I do want to point out that the particular boat *is* supposed to be special.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zero-ELEC View Post
    Worse is, the Victory was already an integral part of the Limsa Lominsa starting quests, as part of the sahagin and Reavers' (and Black Masked Ascian's) plot to destabilize the region and kidnap thralls for Leviathan, as well as the side quests for the area. It did get used. It's might not be "just" a ship, but it already served it's purpose, plotwise.

    It, like anything else in ARR areas, is now in the time bubble of "well, previous expansion areas can't get updated geometry" so even if they ever finished it in-universe, the thing is stuck there forever.
    I don't understand why they couldn't update the Victory not being in dry dock? Just put an invisible wall around it so you can't land on it and voila, you can phase tech it as needed?


    My wild speculation is that Golbez is planning on connecting the 13th with the source in a bid to allow his people access to a life stream that actually lets them die, and also aether to sustain themselves. He's gonna succeed, creating a stronger void presence either in Eorzea or, more likely, on one of the unvisited continents. I'd prefer the New World, cus I want Tiamat's brood to catch a dang break. lol But yeah, we'll be dealing with that.

    But, given the history of set up in patch storylines not really paying off until at least two expansions after they happen, I could see the above being 8.0 as well. We can stick to a mundane threat/exploration expac for 7.0, for all I care. But I don't think we're gonna have that, with Yoshi-P hinting that the end of the patch storyline is gonna be just as much of a paradigm shift as the 7th Umbral Calamity was, story-wise.

    Other off the wall speculation: Who knows, we might get (more) aliens. That message Omega received at the end of EW's nostalgia questline implied there was at least one more species still alive out there. Or there had been at some point, anyway.
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    Last edited by Alleluia; 04-23-2023 at 05:41 PM.