As much as I love the achievements...

[wolfwing]

some things they can probably average out, heck hmmm...since they track when you leveled up each job they can probably average out how many crafts it would have taken each player to hit a level at that time, and give some credit, probably won't but one thing.

heh looking at the leve achievements I'm sitting at around 2600 local and regional local

[Inaaca]

some things they can probably average out, heck hmmm...since they track when you leveled up each job they can probably average out how many crafts it would have taken each player to hit a level at that time, and give some credit, probably won't but one thing.

heh looking at the leve achievements I'm sitting at around 2600 local and regional local

The problem with this approach is that players can get crafting and gathering experience from quests, most notably primals like Ifrit and Moogle over and over and over, resulting in many thousands of xp that didn't involve crafting or gathering at all.

[TheVedis]

The problem with this approach is that players can get crafting and gathering experience from quests, most notably primals like Ifrit and Moogle over and over and over, resulting in many thousands of xp that didn't involve crafting or gathering at all.

and then lets not forget the bonus exp that we used to get per synth on crafting leves, and then the later bonus exp for completion of the leves.

That totaly made most peoples count go from what was around 2k synths to get to 50, to somewhere around 100 or less.


While retroactive woulda given a few people what they may have done before, it woulda given 10 people undeserved credit per every 1 person who got something they may have done.

not a fair tradeoff, cuz then wed have people complaining about how others got it without earning it.

[Lux_Rayna]

not a fair tradeoff, cuz then wed have people complaining about how others got it without earning it.

There's always complaining it seems like...i think current system is fair enough. We all start from 0 is that so bad?

[TheVedis]

There's always complaining it seems like...i think current system is fair enough. We all start from 0 is that so bad?

Nope, it isnt, but some people dont want to accept that as the answer

[Kio]

The gathering achievement requires need to be reassessed. Crafting I can deal with since if you level from 1 to 50 you get within a reasonable range of the achievement. It just takes a little bit more effort and you have the advantage of hasty hand to complete the task.
Gathering on the other hand is no where near the ballpark of it, and asks of you to do it per zone with no quicker method available and more down time between actions.
I leveled from 30ish to 50 only at Iron Lake after the system went into place for mining, and I'm only a quarter way through just that area's goal.
I think toning down the gathering achievement would make the entire task more fun, and more enjoyable for a larger crowd of customers.
If a lot of your older, loyal, customers feel cheated and frustrated with the way it is designed now, it's probably not the best model to move forward with. ^^;

[darkstarpoet1]

i just hope that 6 years from now they add an achievement for walking 100,000,000 yalms, make 100,000,000 off your retainer, sell 10,000,000 items to the npc, kill ifrit 5000 times, kill moogle 5000 times, and kill 1,000,000 of each individual type of mob and everyone of those start at 0. this is the problem i see some people bringing up. this is what could happen in the future and the way this method is handled is what will likely be done in the future as well.

the point is if people don't bring up the issues that they see now and bring forward a suggestion to keep the issue from happening again in the future then mistakes are bound to repeat itself.

[TheVedis]

The gathering achievement requires need to be reassessed. Crafting I can deal with since if you level from 1 to 50 you get within a reasonable range of the achievement. It just takes a little bit more effort and you have the advantage of hasty hand to complete the task.
Gathering on the other hand is no where near the ballpark of it, and asks of you to do it per zone with no quicker method available and more down time between actions.
I leveled from 30ish to 50 only at Iron Lake after the system went into place for mining, and I'm only a quarter way through just that area's goal.
I think toning down the gathering achievement would make the entire task more fun, and more enjoyable for a larger crowd of customers.
If a lot of your older, loyal, customers feel cheated and frustrated with the way it is designed now, it's probably not the best model to move forward with. ^^;

the achievment wasnt meant to be earned in just 1 "leveling spree" to 50, i dont think you understand that with how you stated you got only "some" of 1 achievment while leveling

There is a seperate achievment for hitting 50, and youve earned that in its own right, but the achievemnt for the golden tool requires you to go above and beyond that

[Kio]

the achievment wasnt meant to be earned in just 1 "leveling spree" to 50, i dont think you understand that with how you stated you got only "some" of 1 achievment while leveling

Hmm? I in no way insinuated it. My point was that it was several weeks of gathering on the same level node for that region..enough to take me from 30 to 50, and wasn't close to what the required amount of gathering to gain that particular achievement. Where as, I leveled crafts in that range as well recently and have come within a reasonable range of acquiring the achievement goals. I just feel that the gathering requirements should flow in the same way.

[TheVedis]

Hmm? I in no way insinuated it. My point was that it was several weeks of gathering on the same level node for that region..enough to take me from 30 to 50, and wasn't close to what the required amount of gathering to gain that particular achievement. Where as, I leveled crafts in that range as well recently and have come within a reasonable range of acquiring the achievement goals. I just feel that the gathering requirements should flow in the same way.

but again, the entire poitn of it is that its supposed to take a good ammount of time

i figure it takes around 20 hours easily PER region just for the grade 5 achievemnts
yes its alot, but in the end, its a goal to strive for if you are willing

with all the crafting changes, you ern maybe 1/6 of the achievment now there too for its 41-50 achievment, which seems to be about in line with what you just described

also, im going to take a guess and say that you also probly did leves too, thatl really screw up your counts since that bonus exp will really take away from total swings to get to 50