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    Denji's Avatar
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    Daddy Milkers
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    i think my favourite part about this is when people defend doing it to save time... when the game makes it clear that the tank tanks, however the game doesn't make it clear that some of the community is dead-set on pulling when they aren't a tank.

    if your excuse is "well it's faster i pull unless the tank cries about it" means it isn't faster because of that one little point you're conveniently omitting in your calculations: the tank isn't going to always agree with you. this is a game with thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of players with varying levels of interaction with the community. not every tank is going to know or play that way and so, yes, if you pull and they let you "tank" it, it's your fault. you started it, not them.

    it is very rare i have had a dps/healer "pull" for me, if ever. as soon as my pull is done (and i pull EVERYTHING), i'm already sprinting to the next. they don't have -time- to pull for me. this is also why i like playing war on my main -- watching myself just... heal myself without any help from the healer itches the bit of my brain that goes "mmmmm bigg numburr..." hell (even though my fingers are thankful for the lack of carpal tunnel) i miss the old inner release from shb because with a short enough gcd and rapidly tapping fingers you could squeeze in an extra fell cleave or two for really big numbers.

    so yeah, tl;dr: if you're not the tank and you pull, you do so while also acknowledging the risk that comes with it and that risk is having a tank who will -happily- watch you slowly slough through trash because you're now down a green DPS who's stuck spamming regens and shields because of you.
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    Arya Diavolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denji View Post
    i think my favourite part about this is when people defend doing it to save time... when the game makes it clear that the tank tanks, however the game doesn't make it clear that some of the community is dead-set on pulling when they aren't a tank.

    if your excuse is "well it's faster i pull unless the tank cries about it" means it isn't faster because of that one little point you're conveniently omitting in your calculations: the tank isn't going to always agree with you. this is a game with thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of players with varying levels of interaction with the community. not every tank is going to know or play that way and so, yes, if you pull and they let you "tank" it, it's your fault. you started it, not them.

    it is very rare i have had a dps/healer "pull" for me, if ever. as soon as my pull is done (and i pull EVERYTHING), i'm already sprinting to the next. they don't have -time- to pull for me. this is also why i like playing war on my main -- watching myself just... heal myself without any help from the healer itches the bit of my brain that goes "mmmmm bigg numburr..." hell (even though my fingers are thankful for the lack of carpal tunnel) i miss the old inner release from shb because with a short enough gcd and rapidly tapping fingers you could squeeze in an extra fell cleave or two for really big numbers.

    so yeah, tl;dr: if you're not the tank and you pull, you do so while also acknowledging the risk that comes with it and that risk is having a tank who will -happily- watch you slowly slough through trash because you're now down a green DPS who's stuck spamming regens and shields because of you.
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    Player Nyxs's Avatar
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    Koyuki Himekawa
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    Malboro
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    Conjurer Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Denji View Post
    i think my favourite part about this is when people defend doing it to save time... when the game makes it clear that the tank tanks, however the game doesn't make it clear that some of the community is dead-set on pulling when they aren't a tank.

    if your excuse is "well it's faster i pull unless the tank cries about it" means it isn't faster because of that one little point you're conveniently omitting in your calculations: the tank isn't going to always agree with you. this is a game with thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of players with varying levels of interaction with the community. not every tank is going to know or play that way and so, yes, if you pull and they let you "tank" it, it's your fault. you started it, not them.

    it is very rare i have had a dps/healer "pull" for me, if ever. as soon as my pull is done (and i pull EVERYTHING), i'm already sprinting to the next. they don't have -time- to pull for me. this is also why i like playing war on my main -- watching myself just... heal myself without any help from the healer itches the bit of my brain that goes "mmmmm bigg numburr..." hell (even though my fingers are thankful for the lack of carpal tunnel) i miss the old inner release from shb because with a short enough gcd and rapidly tapping fingers you could squeeze in an extra fell cleave or two for really big numbers.

    so yeah, tl;dr: if you're not the tank and you pull, you do so while also acknowledging the risk that comes with it and that risk is having a tank who will -happily- watch you slowly slough through trash because you're now down a green DPS who's stuck spamming regens and shields because of you.
    If they just watch people get hit they are trash tanks. Why cant they just aoe once and aggro the mobs? Takes a second. Answer: because they are childish and petty people who think they are the big kahuna. A party is a party. People need to do the role or leave. No one cares about someone’s ego in dutyfinder. They want to kill stuff,get to the end and leave.
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    Player Velvet_Lunarfang's Avatar
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    Morgan Blackhart
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    Maduin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyxs View Post
    If they just watch people get hit they are trash tanks. Why cant they just aoe once and aggro the mobs? Takes a second. Answer: because they are childish and petty people who think they are the big kahuna. A party is a party. People need to do the role or leave. No one cares about someone’s ego in dutyfinder. They want to kill stuff,get to the end and leave.
    Well the tank is the leader of the party, they are the ones who set the tone for the group not dps nor healer. If you are impatient because you got somewhere to be then don't be in a dungeon if you want to be impatient
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