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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyAssassin View Post
    Titanman’s ears can’t hear right, no wonder with all that bullcrap between them.


    “Westward lies bleed t'ward the east
    Wayward daughter, step into the night
    Restless eyes, blind to the beast
    Barren waters yield unto the tide”

    https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Wayward_Daughter
    Notice how stilted OP's lyrics seem, yet they convey the same meaning as the ones you posted? I found this curious, so I looked at yours and OP's sources and simply put the Japanese lyrics into a machine translator. TL;DR OP's lyrics are just a really literal translation of the japanese lyrics, while yours are the cleaned up version. If you actually read them though, the meaning is basically the same.

    So bizarre how much hate an in depth character analysis is getting, while threads about coffee and lalafell chairs are met with applause. But it is the official forums, I suppose.
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    I don't get it. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life than creating shitpost after shitpost?
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    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.
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    Let's consider another theoretical mod: one that displays your character entirely naked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyAssassin View Post
    Titanman’s ears can’t hear right, no wonder with all that bullcrap between them.


    “Westward lies bleed t'ward the east
    Wayward daughter, step into the night
    Restless eyes, blind to the beast
    Barren waters yield unto the tide”

    https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Wayward_Daughter

    If you bothered to read OP's source:
    Quote Originally Posted by Redditor
    There's a fairly interesting official post on the Japanese blog that add a lot of needed context into the song. First, it provides a Japanese translation of (E), the English portion of the lyrics. However, this translation actually reveals quite a bit of insight into what the original lyrics intended to convey. I add the blog post's translation to the lyrics in "", and in "()" I add my direct translation (without fluff, faithful to the original meaning):
    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    So bizarre how much hate an in depth character analysis is getting, while threads about coffee and lalafell chairs are met with applause. But it is the official forums, I suppose.
    I don't come to the forums often but it seems like everyone is having a kneejerk reaction based on who the OP is? I feel like there's some context to why everyone is so hostile that I'm not getting.
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    Huh sure?

    *Concern*
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  4. #14
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    I think everyone is hostile because OP is trying to insert some very real and very present issues into a videogame for teenagers whose plot has the primary purpose of serving us a boss fight with cool choreography, and could only be taken as too deep for me in an ironic sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celine_Aurora View Post
    I think everyone is hostile because OP is trying to insert some very real and very present issues into a videogame for teenagers whose plot has the primary purpose of serving us a boss fight with cool choreography, and could only be taken as too deep for me in an ironic sense.
    Dunno how you went to the conclusion that it's just a videogame when Stormblood is very unsubtle about their intention of tackling those issues.

    We spend 70% of the expac exploring life of people under colonialism, how they are oppressed and their culture assimilated or erased and four of its main characters are inherently linked to that topic. (Yotsuyu, Fordola, Hien and Lyse).
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    Last edited by Kazhar; 04-11-2023 at 09:00 PM.

  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celine_Aurora View Post
    I think everyone is hostile because OP is trying to insert some very real and very present issues into a videogame for teenagers whose plot has the primary purpose of serving us a boss fight with cool choreography, and could only be taken as too deep for me in an ironic sense.
    But these are themes clearly present in the expansion. Do you think any of the specific points were reaching?
    I don't see how you can deny it, just read how they describe the song in this blog post and think about how the lyrics are from the perspective of her western Garlean oppressors.
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    Last edited by mana-burner; 04-11-2023 at 08:54 PM. Reason: broken hyperlink

  7. #17
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    I read this is troll however, I feel like she was done dirty to be honest
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    Her story legitly goes from her own family selling her off to be abused by a drunk noone would listen and made her smile -this right here made me want to destory doman people myself-
    then goes to being once again sold forced into a postion that lets face it she had no choice but to take, her other option was just to horrible

    and then once again knowing her story dumbass Hien heartless gives her back to her brother knowing she would die honestly..

    sorry .. i just honestly


    Honestly stormblood story I loved however it made me want to sign up for the empire to punish the stupid savages of doman,Al migok, and honestly every where. Both girls were forced into being villians then frowned upon for doing the most logical actions that the people were to stupid to realize they are nothing but Savages

    In heavensward I wanted to signup with niddhogg after learning things.. I just I can't even see why people say we are "heros and warriors of light" WE LEGIT are protecting abusers, traitors, murders, butchers and honestly brute savages thats not heroic

    assuming the pattern I'm sure in shadowbringer I will also agree with the "bad"
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    Last edited by Chloe_Saunders; 04-11-2023 at 10:10 PM.

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    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Has anyone here played Tenchu 3? Her story is the exact same as a character in that game named Tatsumaru. It's like a gender swapped version of it. I'm not saying it's derivative, but I remember thinking of Tenchu 3 when I did the story all those years ago.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celine_Aurora View Post
    I think everyone is hostile because OP is trying to insert some very real and very present issues into a videogame for teenagers whose plot has the primary purpose of serving us a boss fight with cool choreography, and could only be taken as too deep for me in an ironic sense.
    Everyone is hostile towards the OP because they're a known concern troll.
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  10. #20
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    Hope Sunflame
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celine_Aurora View Post
    I think everyone is hostile because OP is trying to insert some very real and very present issues into a videogame for teenagers whose plot has the primary purpose of serving us a boss fight with cool choreography, and could only be taken as too deep for me in an ironic sense.
    I think if you look up "Titanmen" in the forum search, you'll know well why that name is haunted. It's really not about the topic being too taboo or something lol, rather it's annoying and borderline offensive to see concern trolls adopt such real, serious issues to bludgeon and bait people with.
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