So about bard 7.0

[SweetPete]

How likely is it that dots will be gone off bard in 7.0. Very likely? Not going anywhere? Or just don’t care if they stay or go?

Let’s see what other fellow bard warriors of light thinks.

I think they may be going bye bye. Button bloat is getting kinda up there for bard and their dots do nothing for the job itself anymore.

[Emitans]

Wouldn't surprise me if they drop a single dot, both of them or have the song apply a dot. They're completely vestigial at this point, which saddens me because I actually like dots.

[elioaiko]

They're probably going to drop one or make a new one and have the two dots upgrade into one.

The devs hate dots atp and have slowly deleted them from the game. And due to the de/buff bar being so limited, they'd sooner rid of them to avoid actually fixing it.

But honestly I love dot based jobs but just like pet jobs, the devs don't know what to do with them.

[SweetPete]

I’m not particularly a dot fan if they do nothing else for the job. Like before they helped bard in the gauge now they do nothing. Like healer dots. They do nothing for the job at all. Just a button to press. I think they are going away honestly.

[Kosachi]

I’m not particularly a dot fan if they do nothing else for the job. Like before they helped bard in the gauge now they do nothing. Like healer dots. They do nothing for the job at all. Just a button to press. I think they are going away honestly.

They're probably going away because of the reasons you mentionned. Only thing that seems silly to me is that they became vestigial because they made them worthless; not because anyone asked for it (at least in my experience). Like elioaiko said, they would rather just neuter and remove dots than actually fix any kind of dot/buff/debuff cap.

[Wyssahtyn]

devs are creatively bankrupt, so dots are almost certainly going to get cut in some self-rationalised effort to make their workload less.

[ElysiumDragon]

I don't think they'll be cut entirely, but I could see them being removed as separate actions, and combined with the songs as a bonus effect, to both allow for Iron Jaws to be removed (3 buttons no longer being needed means space for new skills), and to allow competent song usage to maintain 100% uptime on the DoT, instead of scrabbling around for Iron Jaws when there's 3 seconds left, or having to reapply them after a boss leaves the arena.

Oh, and a personal request, please give BRD all 3 songs before 50.

[mallleable]

As much as I adored dot procs in shb, I think it's time to move on.

Having a timer ticking down on the boss that needs to be kept up is good busy imo, but having two timers with same duration and are maintained with one button (and this button isn't even music or archery related) is redundant busy, and should be reconsidered. I can see them reworking Stormbite to not be a dot, and replacing Ironjaws with with something actually archery or music related while leaving Caustic Bite as the only dot skill (BRD already has some snake themed skills, and a snake needs its venom).

I want BRD to remain a busy job, but I think needs more GCDs that are frequently used in its rotation, and reworking/replacing some of the dot related skills will free up hotbar space for such skills. I like that BRD isn't reliant on absurdly high potency skills, but I feel like it's damage needs to be a little more upfront, and not so spread out or delayed like it is currently.

[SweetPete]

I don't think they'll be cut entirely, but I could see them being removed as separate actions, and combined with the songs as a bonus effect, to both allow for Iron Jaws to be removed (3 buttons no longer being needed means space for new skills), and to allow competent song usage to maintain 100% uptime on the DoT, instead of scrabbling around for Iron Jaws when there's 3 seconds left, or having to reapply them after a boss leaves the arena.

Oh, and a personal request, please give BRD all 3 songs before 50.

Honestly I love your idea about attaching dots to the songs. That is amazing actually. Hopefully the devs are reading

[SweetPete]

As much as I adored dot procs in shb, I think it's time to move on.

Having a timer ticking down on the boss that needs to be kept up is good busy imo, but having two timers with same duration and are maintained with one button (and this button isn't even music or archery related) is redundant busy, and should be reconsidered. I can see them reworking Stormbite to not be a dot, and replacing Ironjaws with with something actually archery or music related while leaving Caustic Bite as the only dot skill (BRD already has some snake themed skills, and a snake needs its venom).

I want BRD to remain a busy job, but I think needs more GCDs that are frequently used in its rotation, and reworking/replacing some of the dot related skills will free up hotbar space for such skills. I like that BRD isn't reliant on absurdly high potency skills, but I feel like it's damage needs to be a little more upfront, and not so spread out or delayed like it is currently.

This has my stamp of approval.