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  1. #281
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    People keep saying this, but it's honestly irrelevant. Per YoshiP, you know, the guy who directs the game, players should feel free to take breaks. If he is true to that, he should remove the series malmstone system and redirect it to high cost wolf marks or collars.
    You're more than free to take breaks, and if you lose out on pvp glamour because of said breaks than that's on you. There's still a whopping4 months in between patches and if you can't be bothered to play then they must not had really wanted it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    People keep saying this, but it's honestly irrelevant. Per YoshiP, you know, the guy who directs the game, players should feel free to take breaks. If he is true to that, he should remove the series malmstone system and redirect it to high cost wolf marks or collars.
    Just to point out, at no point have they said the rewards are available for a limited time. So, they could be released in the future for, what would most likely be, Trophy Crystals. So, saying you have a limited time to get them has no basis in fact, just the same as the claim that they are limited. This is still currently a grey area and until someone says something official, it will remain this way.

    There was even a slide when they were first introducing all this that explicitly stated that the rewards will eventually be purchasable:

    https://twinfinite.net/wp-content/up...asy-XIV-43.jpg

    It should be obvious to anyone that they will not release them straight away, but delay them, how much they will delay them, who knows, but all evidence suggests that they will be purchasable in the future.
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  3. #283
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuicyHeals View Post
    You're more than free to take breaks, and if you lose out on pvp glamour because of said breaks than that's on you. There's still a whopping4 months in between patches and if you can't be bothered to play then they must not had really wanted it.
    If you are punished for taking breaks, you are not "free to take breaks". You and others keep trying to say something along these lines but contradict yourself immediately and then try to make it sound like it's my argument that has faulty logic. Kindly re-examine what you just said and try to tell me that makes sense.

    I really don't get why people are so prone to defend exploitative and gross marketing like this. If this were a new MMO it would be laughed into an early grave. I suppose that despite playing the game less than I have, you and others making your argument just can't see past their love for the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    Just to point out, at no point have they said the rewards are available for a limited time. So, they could be released in the future for, what would most likely be, Trophy Crystals. So, saying you have a limited time to get them has no basis in fact, just the same as the claim that they are limited. This is still currently a grey area and until someone says something official, it will remain this way.

    There was even a slide when they were first introducing all this that explicitly stated that the rewards will eventually be purchasable:

    https://twinfinite.net/wp-content/up...asy-XIV-43.jpg

    It should be obvious to anyone that they will not release them straight away, but delay them, how much they will delay them, who knows, but all evidence suggests that they will be purchasable in the future.
    If that were to happen I'd be fine with it.

    However, it has been over a year and nothing regarding this idea has taken place yet.
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  4. #284
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    I'm defending it because you all make it out to be this god awful grind when its not, there's far more games with worse fomo than being asked to play 1 game a day at minimun.

    Edit: And what's punishing about this? It's not housing it's literally just armor. Don't talk about being blind from my love of the game, there's whole plethora of problems with this game but to pretend to get to rank 25 in pvp is such huge task is just not it.
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    Last edited by JuicyHeals; 04-08-2023 at 01:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    If this were a new MMO it would be laughed into an early grave. .
    No it would not? FF14 is pretty much the only MMO without this kind of thing aside from a few seasonal events and the pvp stuff. Every other MMO lives by a ever changing world and with that removing items and rewarding veterans with exclusive stuff
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  6. #286
    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuicyHeals View Post
    I'm defending it because you all make it out to be this god awful grind when its not, there's far more games with worse fomo than being asked to play 1 game a day at minimun.

    Edit: And what's punishing about this? It's not housing it's literally just armor.

    Armor, and mounts, and pets, and emotes and- you know what you get my point. Yes, it IS an awful grind, especially with the psychological stress accompanied by the nature of the battle pass system.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    No it would not? FF14 is pretty much the only MMO without this kind of thing aside from a few seasonal events and the pvp stuff. Every other MMO lives by a ever changing world and with that removing items and rewarding veterans with exclusive stuff
    Yes, it would, and FF14 was a significantly better game when it was STILL one of the few MMO's that didn't rely on it to keep player numbers up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    Armor, and mounts, and pets, and emotes and- you know what you get my point. Yes, it IS an awful grind, especially with the psychological stress accompanied by the nature of the battle pass system.


    Yes, it would, and FF14 was a significantly better game when it was STILL one of the few MMO's that didn't rely on it to keep player numbers up.
    I see you are a new player PVP had exclusive rewards since the beginning.... in A REALM REBORN
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  8. #288
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    Psychological stress? What's stressful about playing 1 game? Either do it or don't, if it's such a chore then don't do it. In no way is this a grind there's nothing stressful about playing one game.

    This isn't 100 levels of tiers to go by in 3 months it's only 25
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  9. #289
    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    I see you are a new player PVP had exclusive rewards since the beginning.... in A REALM REBORN
    I see you haven't been paying attention, I already addressed this. It's okay, I know actually reading is hard sometimes.

    COMPETITIVE rewards for being a certain rank in the various PvP modes are not what I'm talking about, never have been.
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    Last edited by CerusSerenade; 04-08-2023 at 01:22 AM.

  10. #290
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    However, it has been over a year and nothing regarding this idea has taken place yet.
    Going logically, they will release the older rewards when they release a new series. New series only come on major patches, so only expect to hear something on 6.4 or 6.5. They might release things on 7.0, or they might do it in 6.55 as something people can do in the inevitable long stretch of time between 6.55 and 7.0 release.

    All that to say, it is too early to say one way or another whether they will or will not release the items. Physical timescale means nothing, patch release however is what you should be looking for.
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