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  1. #31
    Player SassyAssassin's Avatar
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    Agreements or disagreements, heated discussions or not, Im still happy to have met you all, to hell with what outsiders think, if you’re passionate about something just let it out, we may or may not fight about it but I wouldn’t change that for any other sub-forum here because neither is better than the other, at least here we accept how messed up we all are, we fight and make up :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyAssassin View Post
    Agreements or disagreements, heated discussions or not, Im still happy to have met you all, to hell with what outsiders think, if you’re passionate about something just let it out, we may or may not fight about it but I wouldn’t change that for any other sub-forum here because neither is better than the other, at least here we accept how messed up we all are, we fight and make up :3
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  3. #33
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    Odinel Starrei
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyAssassin View Post
    Agreements or disagreements, heated discussions or not, Im still happy to have met you all, to hell with what outsiders think, if you’re passionate about something just let it out, we may or may not fight about it but I wouldn’t change that for any other sub-forum here because neither is better than the other, at least here we accept how messed up we all are, we fight and make up :3
    I legitimately do not know how you can think this. Tribalism and the perpetual amount of absolute adoration/disdain people have for each other in and for FFXIV is kinda exhausting. It festers, in a way, that mutual resentment, like a feedback loop. Your passions aren't to be commended, they're to be exploited at best, more often than not ignored or mocked. It's really unfortunate how bad it's gotten recently, at some points I wonder if I hate FFXIV or the people tearing each other apart over it more. I mean the feelings mutual either way, amirite guys? Hahahaha.

    If I somehow found out that someone I was talking to at, I dunno, Fanfest this year or something frequented the official forums/is a FFXIV doomer trying to fight inevitability, I'd just intensely pity and sympathize with them at the minimum, kinda like a fellow victim of a debilitating mental illness.
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    Last edited by OdinelStarrei; 03-26-2023 at 01:13 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by CelestaRosa View Post
    this is my opinion. don't have share my opinion. don't have like my opinion. but know nothing you say or do is gonna make me change my opinion. if don't like that tough.

  4. #34
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    xxmiamorecadenza's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by OdinelStarrei View Post
    I legitimately do not know how you can think this. Tribalism and the perpetual amount of absolute adoration/disdain people have for each other in and for FFXIV is kinda exhausting. It festers, in a way, that mutual resentment, like a feedback loop. Your passions aren't to be commended, they're to be exploited at best, more often than not ignored or mocked. It's really unfortunate how bad it's gotten recently, at some points I wonder if I hate FFXIV or the people tearing each other apart over it more. I mean the feelings mutual either way, amirite guys? Hahahaha.

    If I somehow found out that someone I was talking to at, I dunno, Fanfest this year or something frequented the official forums/is a FFXIV doomer trying to fight inevitability, I'd just intensely pity and sympathize with them at the minimum, kinda like a fellow victim of a debilitating mental illness.
    Eh. I can get behind Sassy's perspective. Him - or her - and I have argued before. But once the discussion is over it's over. In our case the thread was outright deleted. So I don't harbor any hard feelings.

    I kinda just reset as I bounce from one discussion to the other. Ain't no point in hanging onto negative associations.

    It's definitely different from the filtered, sugary sweetness you usually experience in-game.
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  5. #35
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    These forums are not a representation of the community as a whole.
    Absolutely agree.

    People come here to complain incessantly. That is what they do. That is all they do.
    Sadly, yes, with no actual answers or solutions to "problems" they claim to see.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyAssassin View Post
    Agreements or disagreements, heated discussions or not, Im still happy to have met you all, to hell with what outsiders think, if you’re passionate about something just let it out, we may or may not fight about it but I wouldn’t change that for any other sub-forum here because neither is better than the other, at least here we accept how messed up we all are, we fight and make up :3
    Quote Originally Posted by OdinelStarrei View Post
    I legitimately do not know how you can think this. Tribalism and the perpetual amount of absolute adoration/disdain people have for each other in and for FFXIV is kinda exhausting.
    I think it's a mix of both of these perspectives for me.

    I'd like to think I've met more people I've liked than disliked through the forums, and even if someone rubs me the wrong way, it's typically contained to that thread. If we run into each other in another thread, there's generally no hard feelings from the last one. However, I do have to also half-agree with Odinel that some people and some topics on the forums are simply tiring to interact with, although I wouldn't say it's 100% due to tribalism. Whenever I see the words 'Titanman alt" thrown around, my eyes just glaze over. The same goes for certain posters. I'll refrain from naming any particular names here, but there are definitely a few posters on the forums who have given me enough reasons to not be interested in making up with up them, and quite frankly I don't care whether those particular posters feel the same about me. Certain people have proven themselves to be not worth it. Thankfully that's not the majority of the people here so we can usually all have a (relatively for the forums lol) civil discussion.
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    Last edited by AwesomeJr44; 03-26-2023 at 03:11 PM.

  7. #37
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    Sotaris's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    The FFXIV community has not devolved into what you suggest. These forums are not a representation of the community as a whole. People come here to complain incessantly. That is what they do. That is all they do.
    Too bad I can only like this post once.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn View Post
    The OP deciding to maliciously comply should remove any reason to believe that they're posting in good faith frankly.
    Firstly, I would like to thank you for pointing out the small size of the original post, I do value your and everyone opinions, and if the request is about the accessibility and comfortability regarding my post without the alteration of my message, I will genuinely comply and improve for both the better communication as well as the readability of the message.

    Secondly, as I stated previously in this thread, the original post is my genuine experience and impression of the English Forum, my experience and mine alone. I would like to remind everyone that I am just but a one individual, with his own opinion, experience, and understanding. I don't, will not, and can't represent the Elemental Players as a whole for I am not the native Japanese, the home world of Kujata has many Southeast Asian players and English speaking communities, thus my choice of my data center and homeworld.

    I do not wish for my message and post to be seen as a form of JP chauvinism for that's not my intention, and thus I would like to apologize anyone who feels offended by my message. I will make sure for my future posts and replies to be more carefully worded.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiceNox View Post
    Firstly, I would like to thank you for pointing out the small size of the original post, I do value your and everyone opinions, and if the request is about the accessibility and comfortability regarding my post without the alteration of my message, I will genuinely comply and improve for both the better communication as well as the readability of the message.

    Secondly, as I stated previously in this thread, the original post is my genuine experience and impression of the English Forum, my experience and mine alone. I would like to remind everyone that I am just but a one individual, with his own opinion, experience, and understanding. I don't, will not, and can't represent the Elemental Players as a whole for I am not the native Japanese, the home world of Kujata has many Southeast Asian players and English speaking communities, thus my choice of my data center and homeworld.

    I do not wish for my message and post to be seen as a form of JP chauvinism for that's not my intention, and thus I would like to apologize anyone who feels offended by my message. I will make sure for my future posts and replies to be more carefully worded.
    But what you said its absolutely truth! ill follow you! Many players here dont have idea how mutch preasure japanese enployees take to make such a great game, an MMO, that has been on for 10 years! if this is not a sucees, i dont know what it is!
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    Last edited by Fellgon; 03-26-2023 at 04:35 PM.

  10. #40
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    Vel Kallor
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    . Tribalism and the perpetual amount of absolute adoration/disdain people have for each other in and for FFXIV is kinda exhausting.
    I tend to find that those people equate the message with the messenger..always a fatal flaw. Doesnt matter who says it, if what they say is true or accurate, whoever says it isnt important. I had one poster call my posts "rage filled" which is hysterically funny, considering they are nothing of the kind.

    This forum has this weird idea that they "represent the community"..which they dont. I wont agree on "tribalism", more a hivemind that doesnt approve of others disagreeing with their "meta" on what they believe people should think of the game. Caliing someone a "white knight' is also a pejorative, to some people here, the cold brutal fact is some of them will NEVER be satisfied, no matter what the devs do.
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