Delete rescue from the game.

[Renathras]

People like you are the reason I gave up on this thread. You're not even reading. Even what you quoted from me says that it's a PART OF THE JOB. Serioulsy who's kicking up a "royal dudgeon" here ? Are you listening to yourself ? Also I gave multiple exemple that bothered me as a tank and it's not just about losing one gcd. I'm not always the one being rescued, I also watch others get abused by it.

I'm fine with people who disagrees with me. You know that's what forums are for btw. To discuss things. But I guess it's just too hard concept for tilted healers mains.

Again, sad that it's happening to you. The Healer forum is just...that's what it's become here.

Unfortunately that's what happens when you feel that your favourite role has regressed to the point of lobotomy over the last ~4 years =/

I don't think that's a good response, though. Yeah, one might be jaded, but that doesn't give one the right to abuse and berate other people. Being upset isn't a shield to act with impunity.

Calm down, healers are royally worthless in dungeons and even normal trials, anyway and damage there doesn't do nearly enough to kill a tank assuming you actually know how to cycle your cooldowns. Using our wacky utilities is our last ditch effort to not fall into a coma mashing 1 for the 896869696859th time.

Can't say I've ever had to abuse other players to prevent falling into a coma. Nor do I think that's an appropriate justification for doing so.

Ah yes because titling a thread "Delete Rescue From the Game" envokes discussion.

It absolutely does. The thing is - as I've said here before - people here don't like dissent and will pounce on it. No one here wants to discuss the issue (maybe 3 of us do, the rest do not). The title wouldn't have changed that, and I think we all know it.

Some things can't be improved on. Rescue is one of them. The "moving other players" is the part that's the problem, and in the case of Rescue, that happens to be the entire ability. The only way to "fix" it would be to grant targets Hollowed Ground, and that would be broken as hell. So the best answer probably IS to remove it.

Also, each Healer had something added this expansion. WHM got Aquaveil and Lilybell, and I'm not sure what it had removed unless we're going with Thin Air (since it's 2 charges instead of a multi-GCD duration).

[EDIT: So we're clear, this isn't saying no Healers had anything removed, but not all Healers DID have something removed, and each had something or other added. Rescue is honestly one of those abilities people tell new Healers not to use anyway, and if we removed it maybe we COULD replace it with something that didn't suck. And even if we couldn't for some reason - "things being removed is bad!" is not a universal truth. Some times, some abilities ARE just bad and SHOULD be removed.]

Why does it have to be a healer ?

Because a *lot* of people just want to heal.

Reading a LOT of replies from other people here, that isn't true. A lot of the jaded Healers here want to DPS and will actively attack anyone suggesting more healing. I'm not saying everyone, but there are some that is a fitting descriptor for. Several people have even said they've swapped to playing a DPS Job and prefer it.

Meanwhile, the people who literally DO just want to heal are derogatorily called "Sylphies". If people in this forum were quick to call out those using that term as an attack (and the attack itself), it'd be far more believable that people just want to heal. Again, not saying everyone, but the collective behavior is more people want to play a Support role and are kinda shoehorned into Healer since there's not a true Support role. It also explains why Jobs like DNC are so popular with the most jaded of Healer players, since it's more the playstyle they prefer, as was ARR/HW/SB SCH.

Note, this isn't a "true healer" argument. It is an acknowledgement that the preferred playstyle isn't "just want to heal". It's generally "want to heal and also do other things that aren't healing", as the people who literally do want to heal and only heal are attacked, not supported. If you all were supporting people that suggest that, and not being so quick to shoot down more healing requirements as something the Devs won't do (when they also won't increase DPS tools, so that argument falls flat), it'd be far more believable that these jaded Healers all legitimately DO "just want to heal". Especially whit how often their preferred solution for "fun" is more DPS buttons, not more healing tools and/or healing requirements/how quick they are to attack anyone suggesting that instead - the people who actually DO just want to heal.