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    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    You can't bring diversity of ideas without diversity of characters. The different ideas we form comes from different places, regions, cultures, relationship with vegetation, ideas of beauty, ways of dressing up, relationship with nature, bla, bla, bla. What is the point of bringing different ideas and excluding the variations of people that come with it?
    In most places around world historically, you had different countries with very different cultures, right next to each other. The people looked the same, but had different ideas. It's a very narrow minded way of thinking that you think all people of a single "race" are completely homogeneous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    In most places around world historically, you had different countries with very different cultures, right next to each other. The people looked the same, but had different ideas. It's a very narrow minded way of thinking that you think all people of a single "race" are completely homogeneous.
    I never said that. I said that if you want different ideas but can't accept and don't want to see different characters, maybe YOU have a narrow mind of what different ideas can be. If you enjoy stories, there's no reason for you to not want new perspectives from different people and different places.

    I agree that even inside a certain group of people that share genetic characteristics, there is not a consensus of ideas. But that is beyond the point of the discussion? The discussion here is how people treat anything that's not status quo as "a token from western culture" and how that's, well, ridiculous, and against what the world was and is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    I never said that. I said that if you want different ideas but can't accept and don't want to see different characters, maybe YOU have a narrow mind of what different ideas can be. If you enjoy stories, there's no reason for you to not want new perspectives from different people and different places.

    I agree that even inside a certain group of people that share genetic characteristics, there is not a consensus of ideas. But that is beyond the point of the discussion? The discussion here is how people treat anything that's not status quo as "a token from western culture" and how that's, well, ridiculous, and against what the world was and is.
    The point still stands, populations were largely ethnically homogeneous, but not ideologically. So when you place a story in a historical setting, or make a fantasy setting based off of that history, then you start adding things that don't fit in the particular setting they pretty blatantly stand out.
    Just to bring the conversation back towards FF 16 a little, Yoshi-P has said the game's world, or at least the corner of the world the game takes place in, is inspired by Medieval Europe, which was at least 99.99% white. And then people got mad that ~0.01% wasn't being represented in the game. So it's either continue on course, or add in a random black guy there for the sole reason that idiots online cried about him not being there.
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