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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    lmao yeah its easy for you to say that when you don't know what i know.

    we can pretend that there NO WAY that they abuse the system and get their friends to match make with them at the same time as them (like the people from EU do)

    just think, theres some that are top 100 in EU getting caught for this shite by the community but nothing happens to them.... what about the ones we DON"T know anything about?
    I know what I know about my datacenter and many times have I even agreed that there are cheaters even on my datacenter and very likely on every other western one.

    EDIT: It is "easy" for me to say not only because I'm just as connected to pvp communities as you, but also because I have practical experience having played with and against them.

    Im not pretending they don't exist, neither am I pretending the methods used don't exist.

    However unlike you, I don't look for the monster in every shadow. I am not the one with the delusional take claiming that top 100 feast players all or at least 95% you mentioned later gamed and cheated the system somehow. If you make such a ridiculous claim based on the things you've heard and seem to trust, then the burden of proof is on you to prove it with concrete evidence.

    Again, I agree with cheaters existing, that is undisputed. I do not agree with straight up defamation of a whole subsection of the PvP community who may very well just have a lot of good players based on theory and knowledge of a tool existing.

    If we find anything about new ones, we will talk about them when it comes to it. To ostracise top 100 players and challengers as a whole out of uncertainty and what-ifs is insulting at best and downright unhealthy for fostering a better playbase at worst.
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    Last edited by Reinhardt_Azureheim; 03-24-2023 at 06:21 PM.

  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    I know what I know about my datacenter and many times have I even agreed that there are cheaters even on my datacenter and very likely on every other western one.

    EDIT: It is "easy" for me to say not only because I'm just as connected to pvp communities as you, but also because I have practical experience having played with and against them.

    Im not pretending they don't exist, neither am I pretending the methods used don't exist.

    However unlike you, I don't look for the monster in every shadow. I am not the one with the delusional take claiming that top 100 feast players all or at least 95% you mentioned later gamed and cheated the system somehow. If you make such a ridiculous claim based on the things you've heard and seem to trust, then the burden of proof is on you to prove it with concrete evidence.

    Again, I agree with cheaters existing, that is undisputed. I do not agree with straight up defamation of a whole subsection of the PvP community who may very well just have a lot of good players based on theory and knowledge of a tool existing.

    If we find anything about new ones, we will talk about them when it comes to it. To ostracise top 100 players and challengers as a whole out of uncertainty and what-ifs is insulting at best and downright unhealthy for fostering a better playbase at worst.
    the top 100 is locking people out of crystal ranks with alts chief and im not gonna go and turn on OBS and a time machine to go prove something that anybody back then simply USING THEIR EYES and CRITICAL THINKING skills could see, its not hard to see you just gotta know what to look for. for example some random dilerbatly going and fighting the entire enemy team and looking like a idiot... or somebody that forgets to heal a couple of times, you can pick these people out of a crowd once you know what to look for and BOY HOWYDY there were everywhere at the time. again you can keep saying that 'oh no thats such defamatory speach wah wah wah' all you want but im just saying what most think out loud silent majority n all that... if the top 100 get offended that i dare question or doubt their ranking they can make like a tree and leaf because i don't care all that much about their opinion or anybody's for that matter. i know what i know, just because there's no
    hard evidence of it does not mean it never happened, one of those 'I know what you did but cant prove it' moments like the OJ trial lol

    edit: oh then theres this to prove my earlier point about the top 100 locking people out with alts https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...083.1668025902
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    Last edited by Towa-Musa; 03-24-2023 at 11:38 PM.

  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    for example some random dilerbatly going and fighting the entire enemy team and looking like a idiot...or somebody that forgets to heal a couple of times, you can pick these people out of a crowd once you know what to look for and BOY HOWYDY there were everywhere at the time.
    Imagine expecting people to play properly in this game, only because they are in Top100.

    I will say if some guys are wintrading for almost 10 years, and still didn't get any better, that would be some skill too.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    Imagine expecting people to play properly in this game, only because they are in Top100.

    I will say if some guys are wintrading for almost 10 years, and still didn't get any better, that would be some skill too.
    its not that hard to rig a match if you have enough people lol
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  5. #85
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    No one cares about the Feast, hope it stays as dead as Rival Wings. It's a game mode for 20 ppl community win trading to get to the top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickledpinkpeppers View Post
    No one cares about the Feast, hope it stays as dead as Rival Wings. It's a game mode for 20 ppl community win trading to get to the top.
    It's dead because it's unplayable.
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    Give me more Keeper of the Moon rep!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanCousland View Post
    youd think theyd put these in instead of making new stuff, not that i mind but you figure it'd be easier on them
    Are they making new stuff? all we get is recolors of older sets, PvP rewards suck.
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    Are they making new stuff? all we get is recolors of older sets, PvP rewards suck.

    This expansion has had a lot of reused assets PvP and PvE. A little sad.
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    ngl I'd really like old rewards back if anything just for something USEFUL to spend crystals on. I spend more time trying to see "What am I just going to not end up binning" on the list of stuff to trade in.
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