Return old rewards to provide more incentive for veterans to PvP.

[Towa-Musa]

So basically your entire argument is based on hear-say from other people who you know?

lmao yeah its easy for you to say that when you don't know what i know.

we can pretend that there NO WAY that they abuse the system and get their friends to match make with them at the same time as them (like the people from EU do)

just think, theres some that are top 100 in EU getting caught for this shite by the community but nothing happens to them.... what about the ones we DON"T know anything about?

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

lmao yeah its easy for you to say that when you don't know what i know.

we can pretend that there NO WAY that they abuse the system and get their friends to match make with them at the same time as them (like the people from EU do)

just think, theres some that are top 100 in EU getting caught for this shite by the community but nothing happens to them.... what about the ones we DON"T know anything about?

I know what I know about my datacenter and many times have I even agreed that there are cheaters even on my datacenter and very likely on every other western one.

EDIT: It is "easy" for me to say not only because I'm just as connected to pvp communities as you, but also because I have practical experience having played with and against them.

Im not pretending they don't exist, neither am I pretending the methods used don't exist.

However unlike you, I don't look for the monster in every shadow. I am not the one with the delusional take claiming that top 100 feast players all or at least 95% you mentioned later gamed and cheated the system somehow. If you make such a ridiculous claim based on the things you've heard and seem to trust, then the burden of proof is on you to prove it with concrete evidence.

Again, I agree with cheaters existing, that is undisputed. I do not agree with straight up defamation of a whole subsection of the PvP community who may very well just have a lot of good players based on theory and knowledge of a tool existing.

If we find anything about new ones, we will talk about them when it comes to it. To ostracise top 100 players and challengers as a whole out of uncertainty and what-ifs is insulting at best and downright unhealthy for fostering a better playbase at worst.

[Towa-Musa]

I know what I know about my datacenter and many times have I even agreed that there are cheaters even on my datacenter and very likely on every other western one.

EDIT: It is "easy" for me to say not only because I'm just as connected to pvp communities as you, but also because I have practical experience having played with and against them.

Im not pretending they don't exist, neither am I pretending the methods used don't exist.

However unlike you, I don't look for the monster in every shadow. I am not the one with the delusional take claiming that top 100 feast players all or at least 95% you mentioned later gamed and cheated the system somehow. If you make such a ridiculous claim based on the things you've heard and seem to trust, then the burden of proof is on you to prove it with concrete evidence.

Again, I agree with cheaters existing, that is undisputed. I do not agree with straight up defamation of a whole subsection of the PvP community who may very well just have a lot of good players based on theory and knowledge of a tool existing.

If we find anything about new ones, we will talk about them when it comes to it. To ostracise top 100 players and challengers as a whole out of uncertainty and what-ifs is insulting at best and downright unhealthy for fostering a better playbase at worst.

the top 100 is locking people out of crystal ranks with alts chief and im not gonna go and turn on OBS and a time machine to go prove something that anybody back then simply USING THEIR EYES and CRITICAL THINKING skills could see, its not hard to see you just gotta know what to look for. for example some random dilerbatly going and fighting the entire enemy team and looking like a idiot... or somebody that forgets to heal a couple of times, you can pick these people out of a crowd once you know what to look for and BOY HOWYDY there were everywhere at the time. again you can keep saying that 'oh no thats such defamatory speach wah wah wah' all you want but im just saying what most think out loud silent majority n all that... if the top 100 get offended that i dare question or doubt their ranking they can make like a tree and leaf because i don't care all that much about their opinion or anybody's for that matter. i know what i know, just because there's no
hard evidence of it does not mean it never happened, one of those 'I know what you did but cant prove it' moments like the OJ trial lol

edit: oh then theres this to prove my earlier point about the top 100 locking people out with alts https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...083.1668025902

[Commander_Justitia]

for example some random dilerbatly going and fighting the entire enemy team and looking like a idiot...or somebody that forgets to heal a couple of times, you can pick these people out of a crowd once you know what to look for and BOY HOWYDY there were everywhere at the time.

Imagine expecting people to play properly in this game, only because they are in Top100.

I will say if some guys are wintrading for almost 10 years, and still didn't get any better, that would be some skill too.

[Towa-Musa]

Imagine expecting people to play properly in this game, only because they are in Top100.

I will say if some guys are wintrading for almost 10 years, and still didn't get any better, that would be some skill too.

its not that hard to rig a match if you have enough people lol