There is so much to do in this game that...

[Raven2014]

On a weekend too.

This is something against, not in favor of the point you're trying to make. The majority of traffic in PF are savage, which is still currently weekly bounded. And people who raid know you don't wait until weekend because all the good group pop early in the week. Weekend is like the perfect time to kick back and relax after clearing for the week.

But ... if you think that screenshot mean something though ... than mind sharing your explaination for this observation below?



look mighty fine to me, I took it 1 minute ago after seeing your post

[Zebraoracle]

The first thing I saw when opening our party finder was "Discord me for irl Feet" and "Himbo Hooters"

What a time to be alive.

Hey I know Himbo Hooters, he's a pretty cool guy and while super memey his venue is really cute.

[Ath192]

This is something against, not in favor of the point you're trying to make. The majority of traffic in PF are savage, which is still currently weekly bounded. And people who raid know you don't wait until weekend because all the good group pop early in the week. Weekend is like the perfect time to kick back and relax after clearing for the week.

But ... if you think that screenshot mean something though ... than mind sharing your explaination for this observation below?



look mighty fine to me, I took it 1 minute ago after seeing your post

Aether looks decent in the savage department. One out of three NA data centers. I still don’t think this is the silver bullet you think it is.

[Raven2014]

I still don’t think this is the silver bullet you think it is.

I don't even think I need a silver bullet though ...

On the same vent, I don't think your post really mean what you think it meant either. My WoW server (Onyxia) was a death server that eventually got the axe ... that was a long time ago and WoW didn't really die with it did it?

[Ath192]

I don't even think I need a silver bullet though ...

On the same vent, I don't think your post really mean what you think it meant either. My WoW server (Onyxia) was a death server that eventually got the axe ... that was a long time ago and WoW didn't really die with it did it?

Maybe you defended it so much everyone left lol. Time will tell. Let’s just hope you don’t do the same to this game.

[caffe_macchiato]

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My sweet, sweet summer child...please remain innocent.

Anyway, horrendous mod beasts and erotica are essentially the future of FFXIV. Once a game starts waning off its official developer-supported content, users have to make their own to fill the gap. According to FFXIV Venues, there are hundreds of clubs active right now on North America datacenters. And that's just on a Sunday, when it's usually the slowest. Clubbing is the de facto endgame for thousands of users, whether you like to admit it or not. The scene has exploded, and you're one of the only ones who've missed the boat. Most players have likely been to one. This is what puts FFXIV on the map these days. Not raiding, not casual gameplay. Clubbing. Erotic roleplay. Modding. Other forms of erotica. It's by far the most modding-friendly and laissez-faire MMO out there, and many people deeply cherish FFXIV specifically for these attributes because no other MMO is quite as generous as we are. That's the truth.

This isn't an endorsement or encouragement, it's just simply what our game has become.

Oh my god..this is TERRIBLE..people are socialising in an MMO ( scandalous....SCANDALOUS I SAY.......) and doing content that ISNT 'raiding"...

We can generally agree that FFXIV is great for socializing. But Square Enix needs to stop wasting resources on raids then. That's not befitting the current spirit of the game. Imagine if they spent resources making more outfits, better housing, better clubbing tools, ability to play and mix tracks in-game instead of Twitch, official modding support, maybe even the ability to make custom housing items. That's what people really want. If you disagree, ask yourself: why are YOU so concerned about people not raiding enough?

[Raven2014]

Maybe you defended it so much everyone left lol. Time will tell. Let’s just hope you don’t do the same to this game.

Is this supposed to make some kind of sense, any relevancy at all, or this is just how you talk when faced with a proper counter argument?

Between this and the other person who took a screenshot of queue time in the death hours of morning as proof the game is dying ... Idk, I feel the game is not really dying, but there is a certain segment seem to desperately want to see it die just so they can feel vindicate? I would think if the game is obviously dying as much or as fast as these people believe, they wouldn't have to desperate searching and making up out-of-context stuffs as their proof.


But indeed, time will tell. It always does, so not sure if there is a reason to say that? Maybe just to sound "grand"?

[VelKallor]

Oh my god..this is TERRIBLE..people are socialising in an MMO ( scandalous....SCANDALOUS I SAY.......) and doing content that ISNT 'raiding"...

Forgive my cynicism at this point and I'm sure millions of excuses are going to be presented here but this is the reality of the game lately.

No one needs "excuses', DEFINITELY , no one needs EVER justify themselves to you, to quote the Mother of Many when Cadet Jarman questioned her methods:

"Tell thy sister to go chase her fish and I will chase mine"

Between this and the other person who took a screenshot of queue time in the death hours of morning as proof the game is dying ... Idk, I feel the game is not really dying, but there is a certain segment seem to desperately want to see it die just so they can feel vindicate? I would think if the game is obviously dying as much or as fast as these people believe, they wouldn't have to desperate searching and making up out-of-context stuffs as their proof.

It isnt that, Raven, its that they are making their OWN fun and doing what THEY want when they feel like it, which somehow, doesnt meet OP's lofty "standards" of what they consider to be "worthwhile".

THIS ISNT WOW. FF 14 is not, never has been, Twelve grant never will be raid focussed or tied to that one specific activity. I have said this over and over again, endgame is whatever the hell you want it to be.

Personally?

All OP has done is to highlight one of the BIGGEST BENEFITS FF 14 has to offer, which is a common platform for people of many nations to get together and socialise, to get to know each other, to make new friends and new game partners, to break down barriers between cultures and peoples, to foster a happy. cooperative community.

How ANYONE can see this as anything other than a positive literally beggars belief.

[Raven2014]

My sweet, sweet summer child...please remain innocent.

Eh uh, what? My screentshot show 80 in DF with 50 in others. I'm fully well aware of how bursting the club scene is, but to me that's just good news, the more facet of a game people can enjoy, the better. Or is there some kind of rule that specifically say one form of entertainment is mutual exclusive of another. Btw, one of the member of my static got "caught" going to one of these clubs, it was screenshot and we made fun of her for a good 2 weeks, but it's all good fun. And our static run savage and ultimate.

Like ... between this and the whole "AFK limsa" meme, do people really think each players can only be a singular of mind who are not capable of pursuing more than one activities or something?

For me, Glam is the true end game, and I don't say that as a joke or a meme. I do savage not because I want to challenge myself or whatever, don't particular care about all that tbh. But if that challenge is what standing between me and my glam, then by god it will be conquered. Everything I do in the game, I do it in the name of the glam. If those club offer good glam I would join them too! Too bad they don't.

[VelKallor]

Raven

You.

I like you