As much as I love the achievements...

[Inaaca]

you sir, are stretching

there is no advantage


there is only 1 fact in all of this, we ALL started at 0 progress after the patch came into effect, noone is redoing any achievment, no one had credit for the achievemnt ahead of time

yes some people can earn it AS THEY LEVEL, but that is by far not an advantage at all, thats just something they get to do on the side

lets also add into the equation that people who were 50 ahead of time can easily hasty hands there way to the achievments several times faster then someone leveling while doing it

but in the end, the pure fact is, we all started from scratch after the achievemnts came into effect

People who started after achievements came into affect can wait until they hit 50 and then go back and Hasty Hand achievements too... It's not like they don't have the same options as people that started pre-achievements. They still have the advantage of not getting their achievement progress wiped like earlier players did.

[TheVedis]

People who started after achievements came into affect can wait until they hit 50 and then go back and Hasty Hand achievements too... It's not like they don't have the same options as people that started pre-achievements. They still have the advantage of not getting their achievement progress wiped like earlier players did.

again, there was no progress wipe

we ALL start from scratch, period, this wipe you are speaking of is a mental block which you are making up as an excuse for why you feel you should not have to do the achievment


its simple really in the end you have 2 choices

1) Do the achievment and get your tool
2) dont do it, and dont get your tool


complaining about this in what is probly the 100th thread on the matter will not change anything

[Inaaca]

again, there was no progress wipe

we ALL start from scratch, period, this wipe you are speaking of is a mental block which you are making up as an excuse for why you feel you should not have to do the achievment


its simple really in the end you have 2 choices

1) Do the achievment and get your tool
2) dont do it, and dont get your tool


complaining about this in what is probly the 100th thread on the matter will not change anything

Don't get me wrong, I'm also doing the achievements. If I want Luminary items, that's my only option. This discussion won't change that.

Your argument is silly, though. No progress wipe, seriously? If I did, I don't know, 3,000 synths on Alchemist pre-achievements, those synths don't count whatsoever toward the achievements. So yes, in this case I would have to start back at square one to regain that 3,000 synth progress before I can continue toward the achievements where I left off. You're fooling yourself if you think that no progess was lost at all regarding this tally.

[Ruisu]

SOMEDAY I'LL FINISH EXPLORING ALL OF THE SHROUD, AND WEAR MY WANDERER'S SHADOW TITLE.

YOU'LL SEE.

I think the achievements are very fair, aside from the get 100,000,000 gil off of NPC kills or whatever the fuck it is. Seriously what the hell. I can't even think of an immediate NPC that drops gil.

[TheVedis]

SOMEDAY I'LL FINISH EXPLORING ALL OF THE SHROUD, AND WEAR MY WANDERER'S SHADOW TITLE.

YOU'LL SEE.

I think the achievements are very fair, aside from the get 100,000,000 gil off of NPC kills or whatever the fuck it is. Seriously what the hell. I can't even think of an immediate NPC that drops gil.

fair means everyone is on equal ground, no advantages, so yeah, 100mil is fair lol

but beastmen drop gil if youd like to know what you can go to for it


alot of these arent meant for short term either, like that one, but for long long long long long long long term

[Inzoum]

I think the achievements are very fair, aside from the get 100,000,000 gil off of NPC kills or whatever the fuck it is.

Well, I think the worst achievements are "Lost in Localization" (complete 10,000 Local Leves) and Region d'Etre (complete 10,000 Regional Leves)

Using EVERY SINGLE LEVE ALLOCATION you earn, it'll take about 3.5 years for *each* of these. The problem isn't so much the time needed to complete these, it has to do with the rate at which you get new leve allocations. Good luck, bro.

Seriously what the hell. I can't even think of an immediate NPC that drops gil.

Human mobs. There's a few in the tunnel leading to the hammel in Coerthas. Drop about 25-50 gil apiece I think. Good luck, bro.

Yeah, the achievements are totally unfair.

[TheVedis]

Well, I think the worst achievements are "Lost in Localization" (complete 10,000 Local Leves) and Region d'Etre (complete 10,000 Regional Leves)

Using EVERY SINGLE LEVE ALLOCATION you earn, it'll take about 3.5 years for *each* of these. The problem isn't so much the time needed to complete these, it has to do with the rate at which you get new leve allocations. Good luck, bro.



Human mobs. There's a few in the tunnel leading to the hammel in Coerthas. Drop about 25-50 gil apiece I think. Good luck, bro.

Yeah, the achievements are totally unfair.

the local one is pretty bad

the regional 10k isnt as bad since you can share others leves and they count towards yours

a group of 8 doing this daily rack up 64 credits a day towards it which is only half a year in the end instead of 4 years


but some of these werent meant to be easy short term goeals, they were meant to happen over the longrun

and some of them(the 100mil) will get easier after the cap raises too when the rewards get higher

[Lerend]

but some of these werent meant to be easy short term goeals, they were meant to happen over the longrun

and some of them(the 100mil) will get easier after the cap raises too when the rewards get higher

This right here is what so many people are neglecting to understand. The "my previous play does not count towards new achievements" issue is a problem with *all games* that implement achievements after day 1. The bottom line is that they had no way of accurately tracking that you mined 3,242,243,200 nodes before they decided that was important information to track. They'd give you that credit if they could, but they cant. Does it suck? Yeah, if you already did all that and really care about the achievement. But that's just the way online games work, stuff gets added, and you dont get retroactive credit for it.

These achievements were clearly not meant to be completed overnight, or even the first week or month after they went live. They are thinking about new players and the long term, we all knew the game would be going through radical changes until 2.0 went live, if you didn't agree with that then you were more than welcome to cancel your subscription and come back and do it the "easy way" after the changes are made, but you chose not to. If you want to painstakingly grind out thousands of synths just for your luminary tool, thats your call, but nobody said it would just be a freebie because you already had that craft at 50, nor should it be. The achievements were designed in a way that you'll probably get about half way just by regular old leveling the crafts, and if you really want the reward, you'll either get it over time as you naturally *play the game* and create things or mine things or whatever, or you can buckle down and focus hard on it. In that regard, i'd say some of the numbers could use a little tuning (materia melding/creating comes to mind), but overall they are pretty on track with how they were designed to function.

If they lowered the numbers or gave out freebies, people would be moaning just as much about how its not fair because *they* did it the hard way and now everyone and their mother has full luminary tools. You just can't please everyone.