AT THIS POINT in World of Warcraft

[R041]

The mainsub for XIV is over-moderated to hell, everyone who seriously uses it and isn't a brainwashed cultist knows they rip down anything even remotely "negative" in perception to the game, regardless of how negative - if at all - it even is.

Every time I look at r/ffxiv and r/ffxivdiscussion, I see threads being deleted. If they're not deleted, then they're downvoted to absolute hell for even showing any type of frustration. God forbid they even mention Yoshi as the problem, they're ripped to shreds in an instant.

Oop, 2 new threads popped up. Let's watch the bloodbath for having an opinion and some ideas.

https://old.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscus...age_loot_feel/
https://old.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscus...lue_your_time/

There's a lot of discussion currently around XIV's content lull and current direction. You don't see those on r/ffxiv or r/ffxivdiscussion. They're all over youtube and twitter right now.

LMAO. No, they arent. WOW is so primitive in its design that it ENCOURAGES stalkers.

XIV is riddled with stalking behavior.. It's a serious problem. It's like 1 of the 3 major complaints we've had since ARR.

What other game lets you get married to someone, divorce them, and your ex can still teleport to you? lol

Edit: Also, I won a house awhile ago and was stalked for a month by the opposing FC sitting on my plot harassing me. GMs didn't do anything.

[Raven2014]

Every time I look at r/ffxiv and r/ffxivdiscussion, I see threads being deleted. If they're not deleted, then they're downvoted to absolute hell for even showing any type of frustration. God forbid they even mention Yoshi as the problem, they're ripped to shreds in an instant.

Seeing how free speech and complaining all you want is exactly what turned this forum into its current state, I think that's a fairly attractive alternative really.

I'm on reddit enough that I can say for sure most of comment like you just had are hyperbolic at best, and ill-intended at worst ... BUT ... you know what, I don't even care about defending it. Even if what you claim is true, so what? If that's what they need to do to prevent the sub from becoming the cesspool that is known as the official forum, then I can say they're doing god work.

[R041]

Seeing how free speech and complaining all you want is exactly what turned this forum into its current state, I think that's a fairly attractive alternative really.

I'm on reddit enough that I can say for sure most of comment like you just had are hyperbolic at best, and ill-intended at worst ... BUT ... you know what, I don't even care about defending it. Even if what you claim is true, so what? If that's what they need to do to prevent the sub from becoming the cesspool that is known as the official forum, then I can say they're doing god work.

This is how a discussion is supposed to go. A push and pull. I'd rather have a discussion and try to come to a mutual agreement off of 2 opposing opinions than to just hive it out and ignore the problems.

Honestly, there's probably more negativity on this forum because they know they can't even comment on reddit.

Also, I pity your ideals. What a sad existence believing it's better to stifle opinions completely than to better yourself or your community with discussion. You're part of the hive. Why even think for yourself.

I played WoW at least a decade ago so I know their dungeons have many differing paths, but that still doesn't solve the XIV problem of "no one runs the alternate paths anyway so why have them" problem that the devs have put themselves into.

What? Plenty of groups run different paths for different reasons in WoW.. Also, mobs roam and have different abilities to counter different comps. Depending on your general speed, and if you're single target or AoE you may need to go a different path.. Or if you have a stealth, then you can take advantage of that in certain scenarios.

Did you play recently, or are these more opinions based on decade old 'Other MMO' info comparing it to XIV currently? I see a lot of that.

XIV has none of that anymore. You shove a hammer straight into your skull and walk a straight line.

[Raven2014]

This is how a discussion is supposed to go. A push and pull. I'd rather have a discussion and try to come to a mutual agreement off of 2 opposing opinions than to just hive it out and ignore the problems.

Honestly, there's probably more negativity on this forum because they know they can't even comment on reddit.

Except you CAN complain on reddit, I know because I did. But if you mean complain to a point it's part of your known personality then yes, it's generally not tolerated, for good reason.

The "you can't be negative on reddit" is as much as a myth as the "only praise is allowed" because neither are remotely true. Reddit is known as a meme and art factories. Like right now the entire first page of the sub are meme/art posts, and that's how it is like 99% of the time. The reason that sub have a "positive" vibe isn't because people worship Yoshi-P (if anything he's defended less vehemently then he is on here), it's simply due to the lack of no negative. Overall, it's just a sub where the majority of people know they're on there for "fun". Which if I can be so bold, kinda the natural state of mind when you play a game ... isn't it.

[R041]

Except you CAN complain on reddit, I know because I did. But if you mean complain to a point it's part of your known personality then yes, it's generally not tolerated, for good reason.

The "you can't be negative on reddit" is as much as a myth as the "only praise is allowed" because neither are remotely true. Reddit is known as a meme and art factories. Like right now the entire first page of the sub are meme/art posts, and that's how it is like 99% of the time. The reason that sub have a "positive" vibe isn't because people worship Yoshi-P (if anything he's defended less vehemently then he is on here), it's simply due to the lack of no negative. Overall, it's just a sub where the majority of people know they're on there for "fun". Which if I can be so bold, kinda the natural state of mind when you play a game ... isn't it.

I'll allow you the luxury to believe that. We can agree to disagree.

[Raven2014]

I'll allow you the luxury to believe that. We can agree to disagree.

Nah man, it's not a luxury. It's easy to believe in fact because you don't have to spend the effort to make it up.

[R041]

Nah man, it's not a luxury. It's easy to believe in fact because you don't have to spend the effort to make it up.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Nah man, it's not a luxury. It's easy to believe in fact because you don't have to spend the effort to make it up.

Just gave the Reddit a visit.
Can Confirm, good times.
Great Memes, and man some pretty Fanarts <3



I should start going there more often, could use a Break from this miserable place.

[rainichan]

What? Plenty of groups run different paths for different reasons in WoW.. Also, mobs roam and have different abilities to counter different comps. Depending on your general speed, and if you're single target or AoE you may need to go a different path.. Or if you have a stealth, then you can take advantage of that in certain scenarios.

Did you play recently, or are these more opinions based on decade old 'Other MMO' info comparing it to XIV currently? I see a lot of that.

XIV has none of that anymore. You shove a hammer straight into your skull and walk a straight line.

You're misreading my post. I'm not talking about WoW having that problem, I'm talking about XIV having that problem.

[R041]

You're misreading my post. I'm not talking about WoW having that problem, I'm talking about XIV having that problem.

My bad.

I guess what you're saying is, XIV can't do what WoW can in this regard. Because XIV has no real mechanical diversity. Which I agree with, it would be very difficult for XIV to even attempt it.

But that's just a byproduct of them washing everything, which in itself is frustrating. :/