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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post

    The reason people are expecting more from Square Enix is because they have a history of putting out decent games. People like to trust their brand, but for a lot of folks this trust is being infringed on, because Square is no longer putting out things they like. They complain because they hope the company will go back to being what it was in the 90s/early 00s. Of course, it will not, as its target demographics have shifted, not too mention all of the technological creation process for games in addition to who controls and works for the company and why.
    Then people are entitled or have selected memory. Even in that era, not all games SE put out were a gem, they have always released some average run of the mill tittles, or even flop. RomanceSaga, Mana Legend, Front Mission, Grandia, Radiata stories .etc. are those games that you kinda play and then forget, and they have always outnumber the few flagship tittles.

    I think this could also be just confirmation bias. How many people here can honestly they remember games in those series I just listed above? (most of them wasn't even one game, but an actual series). It has been far too long that those less than stellar tittles probably had fade from memory, leaving only the the brightest as what people remember. And that's normal, but I would call it's hardly a fair assessment. Like I said, over there years there always gonna be up and down, but on average, it's an upward trajectory, otherwise the company would have fold long ago. You don't survive in this industry and a free-market by staying on a 20+ years down spiral. As you said, the market have become much bigger than it ever was, and they have more competition, not less.


    As often when people complain, they talk with feel rather than fact, and thus sometime ignore what is "logical".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    RomanceSaga, Mana Legend, Front Mission, Grandia, Radiata stories .etc. are those games that you kinda play and then forget, and they have always outnumber the few flagship tittles.
    Excuse you, I have never forgotten SE's best titles, and still play them to this day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Excuse you, I have never forgotten SE's best titles, and still play them to this day.
    Well, I had played every Front mission games, including the one that didn't come out in English. To me they're some of the best TBS games ever. But it's safe to say given its popularity, I'm not exactly in the majority :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    Well, I had played every Front mission games, including the one that didn't come out in English. To me they're some of the best TBS games ever. But it's safe to say given its popularity, I'm not exactly in the majority :P
    Front Mission 3 is forever the best in the series to me, and one of the best TRPGs ever created. I really hope SE does release the remaster for Switch, I NEED it (despite having an emulated version, the PSN version, the physical PS1 version...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    Then people are entitled or have selected memory. Even in that era, not all games SE put out were a gem, they have always released some average run of the mill tittles, or even flop. RomanceSaga, Mana Legend, Front Mission, Grandia, Radiata stories .etc. are those games that you kinda play and then forget, and they have always outnumber the few flagship tittles.

    I think this could also be just confirmation bias. How many people here can honestly they remember games in those series I just listed above? (most of them wasn't even one game, but an actual series). It has been far too long that those less than stellar tittles probably had fade from memory, leaving only the the brightest as what people remember. And that's normal, but I would call it's hardly a fair assessment. Like I said, over there years there always gonna be up and down, but on average, it's an upward trajectory, otherwise the company would have fold long ago. You don't survive in this industry and a free-market by staying on a 20+ years down spiral. As you said, the market have become much bigger than it ever was, and they have more competition, not less.


    As often when people complain, they talk with feel rather than fact, and thus sometime ignore what is "logical".
    I loved Grandia 1&2 but ya the others I didnt play. But yeah square have had their fair share of flops even in the good ol days.
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